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Following Mr Farage's claim that he had been advised not to hold in-person surgeries by the Speaker's Office, the Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle said he would advise MPs to take advice from parliament's security team and "do so safely" if they asked him for advice on holding surgeries.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think there's another definition of surgery being used here with which I am wholly unfamiliar.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep, it's what the yanks call a townhall.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And what do y'all call surgery? "Slicey knifey back to lifey?"

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

Well I do now

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Old English vs modern. Original meaning was to alter something.

As our political system grew from royal land allocation where Lords were in control of the laws of their own serfs.

Surgeries were how locals talked with Lords abouts altering contracts and management of the land laws etc. More like a court then a town hall.

As we moved to a democratic system and the house of commons gained power. MP took over the job / terms.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so it's actually closer to one of those psychic surgeries where the fake doctor pretends to do surgery but then you die of cancer 9 months later

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Funny but no.

Its just surgery as a word is way older then our willingness to slice humans and stick our hands in.

We only applied it to that around the late 1800s.

But its forgivable that teenage nations like the US are confused. We as your parents have failed to educate you in many ways.

[–] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also surgery. But we're capable of knowing which homonym is meant by context ;)

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno, I thought he was having face surgery at first

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

He still got some mileage in the bullfog face he got last time.

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

a "surgery" in British politics is like a town hall meeting, but one person at a time.

A political surgery is a series of one-to-one meetings that a Member of Parliament or other political officeholder may have with their constituents

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 21 points 1 month ago

he had been advised not to hold in-person surgeries by the Speaker’s Office

Apparently this is false. From PA Media:

"The Speaker’s Office and Parliament’s security team have no recollection of telling Nigel Farage that he should not hold in-person surgeries in his constituency, the PA news agency understands."

[–] teft@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm not British but if this guy is so scared of his constituents stabbing him, why not just wear an anti-stab vest? You could be relatively safe and still able to talk face to face. Also just put some metal detectors up.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They probably want to stab him on his stupid face.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

On, in or around most likely.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Or just use a polycarbonate screen like banks do.

He isn't scared of being stabbed. He just doesn't want to go to Clacton.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

MPs having to wear stab vests is not a good thing.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They don't have to wear stab vests. Literally no MPS use a vest. He's just a disingenuous twat who has thought of an excuse which isn't very clever and is easily disprovable, but he is sticking with it because his tiny mind can't come up with another idea.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can’t believe Nige isn’t even going to pretend to do his job. Shocked.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

I find it's endemic among Nigels

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course that's the reason. It's got nothing to do with him being a lazy cunt.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

No it's a total coincidence.

Maybe this speaker's office told him it was inappropriate to hold surgeries from inside trump's backside, since that's where he spends most of his time.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

It's just an excuse to not do his job. Too much like work.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

Given the fact that both MPs that have been murdered in the UK have been committed by hard right lunatics, I'd have thought he was the safest of all MPs.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm conflicted. It's because he's a lazy cunt that would rather rake in money from whatever he's shilling through the media than do his job. With that said, the people of Clacton were thick enough to vote for him, so in many ways they deserve a MP that can't be fucked to represent them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

I live in an area with the same amount of general thickisge as Clapton, the only difference here is that it isn't the entire constituency. The rest of the constituency generally contains people capable of simultaneous walking and spitting and as such didn't vote for an idiot racist party.

There will be the odd few people in Clapton who didn't vote for this idiot and now there have been to suffer him. I feel sorry for them.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago

That's good news really. Who wants to see him and smell his fag and beer breath close up?

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

He will use this as a political stunt.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Too many low flying milkshakes?

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This wouldn't surprise me at all and is a sad indictment of the decline of political debate in this country.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

If you bother to read the article you would have realized that it's been disproved.