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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 145 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I have to admit that at first I was concerned that switching candidates so close to the election would hurt the party. Im glad I was wrong.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The old rope-a-dope strategy. Put out an old feeble conservative democrat to lull the opponent into a false sense of security. Let the conservative opposition nominate a dog-eating couch-fucker as VP. Then yank the geriatric coot off stage and replace him with someone 30 years younger and normal looking who can string a full sentence together without drooling.

Rock bottom expectations are fully exceeded. Right-wing oppo strategists are sent scrambling for a new messaging game. The median American voter fully forgets these two people were part of the same administration and excitedly claps at the jangling keys.

Not since Reagan cut a deal with the Ayatollah of Iran has any presidential candidate so effortlessly hoodwinked their rivals. Truly a master class in winning elections. We hope.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait when did couchboy become a dog eater, are we just reversing their comments as projection?

Always because yes

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the first time the Democratic strategy hasn't disappointed me in years. Nealy everyone is pushing in the same direction, and the messaging has been nearly flawless.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everyone is pushing in the same direction because everything is continuing to slide to the right. People want policy from the left, not this neolib right-of-center crap

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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought the idea might have been planted to subvert the democrats and push voters from the polls.

Hopefully the energy behind the Harris campaign lead to her presidency and a more blue government.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Same. When it was announced I was literally like, "fuuuuuck". But I've since change my tune and legit have a modicum of hope again.

[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd like to think there is a strategist in her camp who urged Biden to stay in for as long as he did, and only swap out after the first debate, closer to the 3 month runway mark. And that strategist is just waiting until after the election to gloat publicly about the scheme.

Now that's a conspiracy theory I can get behind.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I've had a similar thought about it. The timing of him dropping out was near perfect in hindsight, right after the Republicans locked Trump and Vance in and taking all of the wind out of their sails right when they were eyeing the finish line. If someone planned that far in advance they'll definitely deserve to gloat!

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

This is me exactly. It makes me so happy that the Dems are doing a good job.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I was wrong. I'm happy to say that.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh she did that for me practically on day one of announcing her candidacy.
She is obviously intelligent and has very good political ideas.

But something hit me recently, with George Bush it was said he was the kind of person people would like to have a beer with. Which was allegedly a big reason he won.
But I certainly see that with Kamala Harris much more. Kamala Harris seems like such a genuinely nice person, who can also have a bit of fun.
So Kamala if you find yourself in the neighborhood, feel free to pop in, my treat. 😀 🍺

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I know that’s a really silly metric to judge them by, but I think Walz is that x1000.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Walz is the first vp candidate that I think actually brings significant number of voters to the table. Perhaps I'm biased because he's been an amazing governor.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes that's what my wife (and many others) say, I just haven't seen any interviews with him yet, I've just seen pictures of him on stage with Harris, and a video of him buying donuts.
Everything I read about him is good though, so I believe you. I'll take the chance and say he can come along too. 😋

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Watching Tim Walz get the news in the middle of a live post debate interview that Taylor Swift was endorsing Kamala & him was amazing.

His reaction is so genuine and joyfull. You can tell he's on the verge of happy tears.

Since I know Tim Walz doesn't drink, I'll just invite him over for a friend's & family cookout instead and feed him too much carne asada.

Link to mentioned video of him getting the news: https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-see-tim-walz-react-live-219048005739

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I heard he was a great pick, and I've read about several of his policies, and he seems solid on the policies IMO.
But now I've seen 3 videos with him, and I can see why he is so popular.

[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t if the story is true but I heard in the finale day before she made her decision she interviewed both Josh Shapiro and Tim, and when she did Josh want to know what the divisions of responsibilities were going to be and what he would be able to take charge of. And Tim walked in and opened with “So what do you want me to do?” and I think that says everything I need to know about him.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

He got the Democrats in MN to come together and pass so much progressive laws with a 1 seat majority is amazing.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I saw that! Had never watched either candidate speak, I was voting for them no matter what, but I was stunned by the both of them.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I just haven't seen any interviews with him yet

Let me help change that, with one of his 'hot takes'

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I thoroughly enjoyed that, thank you.

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[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] CrayonMaster@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean it is, but also Walz is easily the most positively I've ever felt about a politician

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

otoh I like John Cleese's line. He said he wanted a candidate so brilliant that he, Cleese, would be afraid to sit at the same table, lest he be proven a complete dunce.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately Cleese was pro-Brexit and is now attacking "woke-ism".

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

So what?

I like Ed Koch's take on different opinions. He said that if you liked him 51% of the time you should vote for hi. If you agreed with him 100% of the time you should see a psychiatrist.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, that’s a much higher bar than we’re aiming for this time.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I think it's more that today's American politicians reel it in.

Clinton was know as a policy wonk, and Obama would go from community organizing to the U. Chicago law school without missing a beat. Even George W. went to top schools.

Harris could go toe to toe with the best minds out there; she tailored her responses to Donnie's level.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can you imagine how incredibly different things would be right now had Biden stayed in the race?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I like to think that Biden not being sick would help him, and he'd mop the floor with Trump if they had a 2nd debate. I think Trump would just say I already debated him, I'm not doing it again because he "won" that one.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We would be listening to a brand new raft of excuses for his second debate performance. Instead of watching Republicans make up conspiracies about bluetooth earrings.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She's certainly exceeded my expectations, and Trump has not met mine, either.

I thought the GOP would have made more out of the lack of primary voting, and been prepared for Harris. The way they were pushing Biden out of the race, I thought for sure they had a strategy to capitalize on the chaos of switching candidates this late in the seasons.

But Harris herded the kittens in the DNC, and came out swinging. Trump, meanwhile, was clearly unprepared for any of it. I'm very happy to have been completely wrong about it.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago

Literal "dog caught the car" moment.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

“Harris’ popularity is astounding and could very well beat out Biden’s support in 2020… Now, to the polls. Both candidates are NECK AND NECK it’s gonna be a DEAD HEAT until November Trump could very possibly WIN OVER ALL THE SWING STATES.”

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's unfortunately not really a contradiction though, given the electoral college


I think Harris will obliterate Trump in the popular, but that's sadly not what matters.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

If The Superbowl had a roughly 1/5 chance of the winner being declared the loser because of a technicality, we would burn this shit to the ground. Yet, here we are with roughly 1/5 of all presidential elections being overturned by the EC.

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I remember that tons of people were super apprehensive to change the candidate with such little time left. I'm glad Biden's campaign didn't listen to that, because Kamala is way better in every way.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was one of those. And never knew much about Harris before so I was doubly apprehensive. But she really is a solid choice and what the world needs right now, namely someone who can beat Trump. And maybe, just maybe she might be a tiny slither more progressive than Uncle Joe too, but now I'm probably dreaming. I'll settle for not getting the fascist again, though.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What an amazing choice that was. Just imagine an alternate universe where Biden was still running. 😳

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No need to imagine. It was barely a bit more than a month ago.

And to be clear, those who are trying to beat people into submission in the issue of genocide were the same who tried to beat people into submission on the issue of Biden s ability to win. They where wrong them. They're wrong now.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The people who were shitting blood over how anyone who wants Biden to step down is a Russian agent will unfortunately learn absolutely nothing from these events.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Running? He was barely walking. Kamala is running circles around him.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

She crushed the debate. She learned from the mistakes that Hillary made IMO and handled him like the child he is. The fact that she managed to hook him with the rallies was fantastic.

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