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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 269 points 2 months ago (4 children)

He'd give up on Ukraine. And call it a win.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 113 points 2 months ago (5 children)

"Winning the battle is worth losing the war"

(Trump, The Art of the Deal, pp. 179-181)

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I could make a deal with Hitler to stop this war tomorrow!"

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah pretty much.

Aka appeasement. We tried it Donny. Though this time it's Trump who wants to be dictator.

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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 51 points 2 months ago

The Jews would have had peace if they'd just let themselves be taken to camps peacefully.

This is less funny because Russia literally did commit a holocaust in Ukraine.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 257 points 2 months ago (9 children)

He didn’t answer a single fucking question about anything, just ranted about illegals eating pets the whole time.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He is outing gop for eating pets. He just needs to do it under the radar.

Remember every blame the throw around is admission on their part.

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[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 30 points 2 months ago (8 children)

This is why I don't watch the debate. I know it'll just piss me off because he won't say anything but crazy shit.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 212 points 2 months ago (11 children)

It was obvious as hell that he wants Russia to win.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

All we have to do is make him president elect! We don’t even have to inaugurate him!

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 185 points 2 months ago (7 children)

This stood out to me. Do we know of anyone who Trump might be worried about upsetting if he said he wanted Ukraine to win? Anyone at all?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 106 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do we know of anyone who Trump might be worried about upsetting if he said he wanted Ukraine to win? Anyone at all?

That question is awkwardly worded, why are you putin it that way?

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just not russian to any conclusions

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Tsar right to know if he’s compromised.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 61 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

What is confusing to me is why would it matter to Putin if Trump lied here? The Russian mode of government is lying and deception after all.

Does he actually think that his voters want Ukraine to lose? Oh fuck, do his voters actually want Ukraine to lose?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They've been listening to the Russian trolls and bots.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 115 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This needs to be very widely publicized.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 71 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It was a presidential debate. It was fairly publicized.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think maybe they mean... Like, not washed out by the other 90 minutes of crazy shit he was saying.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 108 points 2 months ago

I feel like when Harris said that Putin would be sitting in Kyiv, Trump didn't understand. "Why would he be in Kyiv, Putin would be at home, happier of course" because he's taking it literally like a fucking idiot.

And yes, Trump, of course Putin would be happier with you in charge when he invaded. The Biden administration gave crucial Intel in the months leading up to the invasion and military support. Harris 100% deserves props for being involved in that.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 86 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He also still refused to admit he lost four years ago, and admit any fault or regret for Jan 6th. And he showed zero remorse or awareness about the Central Park Five. Pure deflection for every single question.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 79 points 2 months ago (6 children)

His boss sure as shit doesn’t want Ukraine to win.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He knows he can't say Russia but he doesn't want Ukraine to win so he does this.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't know why he can't say Russia. It's the obvious truth, his swallowers - sorry, his followers - would lap it up no matter what, and it's no more or less insane than anything else he says.

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (37 children)

Russian Asset. Better dead than Red.

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[–] PlatDrone@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago

Not only this, but they rephrased the question asking if he thought it would be in America's best interest to win the war and he declined to answer again...

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 52 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I found it interesting that Trump claims if he wins the election, he'll have the Russia / Ukraine conflict resolved BEFORE he even takes office. I'm paraphrasing there, but that's how I interpreted what he stated.

If that's the case, then it seems like he could choose to end the conflict at any time. Why doesn't he just end it now? Save countless lives. Minimize injuries. Prevent suffering. Save money. I'm sure that'd change some voters' minds if he did it. Might even win him the election.

Yes, this is a rhetorical question. I have no doubt that he can't actually end it without basically giving in entirely to Russia.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is a confusing statement. I understood it to be basically that once he is guaranteed to be president, Putin will know his man on the inside will be in charge, and Putin can end the war/negotiate for favorable terms with the US as enforcer.

Trump can't end it before the election, because there's no guarantee he'll win.

Trump thinks that makes him a brilliant negotiator, instead of what he really is which is a stooge that can be played like a fiddle.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He refused to answer any question

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Of course, he wants Russia to win, duh

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[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (50 children)

Putler is betting on trump to win. If Harris wins, it's over for him.

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[–] ByteOnBikes 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So much conservative talking points about Kamala is pro-genocide with no evidence.

Like motherfucker, your main boy has zero plans and has a history of flying by the seat of his pants and having Americans killed.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Reminder that Zelenskyy basically called Trump's bluff on his plan, encouraging him to share it now.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's why he's nothing more than vatnik kompromat.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hes avoiding turning off potential voters just like a typical politician

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