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[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

How does pirating make a corporation broke? Making a copy doesn't steal money.

Edit: We can't pirate a company into bankruptcy.

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because they keep whining that they're losing money /s

EDIT: added /s

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have an automated setup that can torrent the same game 100000 times so I can make corporations go broke at the click of a button. Fear me

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

I have a collection of 10000 classic Nintendo games on an HDD so I can make Nintendo America file chapter 11. Fear me

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We can’t pirate a company into bankruptcy because there are still people paying for the movies and games we download. If everyone pirated content, these companies would go bankrupt, and there would no longer be new content to pirate. Online pirates often justify their behavior by telling themselves a story about how they’re 'sticking it to the man,' but in reality, we’re just freeriders enjoying the fruits of others' labor. We’re leeches with no moral ground to stand on.

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Well, they have to pay licensing fees for the media, pay crazy money for the IT infrastructure, which they have no matter how many downloads.

[–] WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

You didn't pay up to enjoy the product. They lost revenue. But yes, it didn't "broke" the corporation.

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This assumes I was going to buy it in the first place

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

You would if piracy wasn't an option. Maybe not all of it, but some of it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They lost revenue

They lost HYPOTHETICAL revenue. Assuming that everyone who pirates a product would otherwise buy it is a textbook appeal to probability fallacy

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unless "piracy" is your alternative to buying a brand new copy at launch, I don't wanna hear it.

If GameStop can make bank re-selling used games without giving back a cent to the developer, how is doing the same for free, without taking up competitive retail space any worse?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 3 points 2 months ago (17 children)

Because the copy sold by GameStop was already paid for to the publisher.

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[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

In fact, you're helping them promote their stuff. E.g. everyone is watching that TV show and it's all your friends are talking about. Now you have to do it too.

If instead of pirating you'd be like "I think it's extremely expensive to pay a subscription fee for this low tier content, so instead I've been reading X". Maybe you'd convice someone to join you. But for now you're just reinforcing the media monopoly.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

How are you this naive? You know someone has to pay the developers a salary right? How would corporations pay them if nobody bought the game and instead pirated?

[–] parlaptie@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah you gotta support the corporations financially so the game can be successful and they can go on to lay off all their developers anyway.

Remember Tango Studios?

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[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago
[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If you aren't stealing them they aren't stealing your content or work with AI. This pirating isn't stealing bullshit is tired. Some backwards ass way to justify stealing someone's right to distribute their work and get paid.

[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is definitely some "I'm a 14 year-old edge lord" content right here

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

That was partly the intention lol

[–] sazey@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure what is with all the recent gatekeeping and glamourisation I am seeing around pirating, just seed your torrent and go bro.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 18 points 2 months ago

I pirate because it's too much hassle otherwise.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

Oh how I wish it worked like that.

[–] vastard@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 2 months ago

I could navigate 8 different streaming services with unique catalogs and awful UIs just to find that my show isn’t available in Canada—not with a clear notification, but by empty search results where it’s supposed to be.

Or I could run a docker container that automatically searches everywhere for me and puts shows in my library minutes after their release.

For my uses it would be more convenient to pirate shows on the services I still pay for.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I pirate because I want to try it first. The days of rolling the dice on a 60 dollar game like on the NES are over.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

Yo there's games that cost 80€ for me ($88.60). Even if I could afford that I would not pay that much. And remember that there are a bunch of games that basically don't drop in price at all.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Remember, every time you download an episode instead of streaming it you cause the corporations to lose MILLIONS (according to their words).

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I pirate because I know I won't have it eventually if I don't. Where I can, I donate directly to the creator instead of the worthless middlemen that are going to disappear next year and take my purchase with them.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

i wish it would.

i would be pirating even shit i dont want.

I pirate because i have a digital hoarding issue

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I pirate because ads and cost. Not that I couldn't afford it, but accepting price increases for the same or reduced quality of service encourages enshittification. Ads are unacceptable, period.

Give me Steam level quality and you'll receive my money. That includes offline capabilities, family sharing, uncompromised content quality, and no taking back purchased items. In short, make me trust your platform. And I will never pay for subscriptions. Netflix was close, but alas.

The best time to start was 20 years ago (again, Netflix). Second best is now.

[–] bizarrocullen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Because I'm a third worlder and have no other way.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to pirate because when I started gaming, I was poor.

I could afford a game or two, but I was smart enough to know getting a modded ps2 would mean that my money would go much much further and thereby maximize my gaming experience. My gaming budget was the same, but I wanted my money to go to hardware.

Now I’m an adult, work as a software dev and the price isn’t a problem. But now I pirate because as a dev I know, all the hard workers are paid salary/hourly before the game releases, and if it’s a AAA game, all the money goes to investors.

Solution? Being a patient gamer and paying for indie games here and there :D

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] CondensedPossum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[–] Kaelygon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Seeders get leeches

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, you don't. That's the point of piracy. Corporations extract every bit of wealth from the consumer class to the point that they don't even notice piracy, other than to decry it as a great evil. Nobody is going out of business.

When it comes to corporations, steal everything.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I’ve always wondered - what qualification do we use to decide when a “business” (run by a kind guy behind a counter he built himself from scrap wood) evolves into a “corporation” (evil and scheming, part of the global capitalist conspiracy)?

Like, if the guy who runs my local coffee shop opens a second cafe further down the street, should I start tapping his phone to find out how the YouTube Content ID system works, now that he’s a part of The Corporations? Should I start breaking into his cafe and start stealing scones? Or do we want to wait until he has a third location

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Probably a third location, just to be safe.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At least you've alluded to the fact that you're in fact stealing when pirating

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I wrote that poorly. I'm going to leave it as a warning to future generations.

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