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The Ecological Rift in the Anthropocene – Interview with John Bellamy Foster: – degrowth.global (www.degrowth.global)

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[–] solo 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have to admit (even tho I understand the intentions behind it) I really don't like the term anthroposcene for many reasons. I don't think it reflects the issue. The issue is not humans in general. The issue is a tiny part of humans that are on top of the social hierarchies within a system we call capitalism. As a term, it also seems to me that it feeds this wrong linear narrative of human evolution that has been widely adopted in the west (cultures that have been traditionally colonizing), unfortunately by almost everyone, even the left.

[–] hanrahan 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The issue is a tiny part of humans that are on top of the social hierarchies within a system we call capitalism.

That's just a cop out, though, didn't work at Nuremberg either. The 80% who enable those asshats are the real problem becase without them Hitler would just be a loon on the sidewalk shouting obscenities.

Look at the recent UK election, the vast majority voted for the ball numbing orthodoxy of entrenchment. They overwhelming voted Labour, Tory, LibDem or Nasty Party. A tiny number voted Green, sure, not radial enough becase if they were there they'd be even more pariahed then they are now but at least not a goose step in the wrong direction and their rise is needed to move the Overton Window and allow the rise of the truly radical politcans we do need.

George Orwell quote "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, theives and traitors are not victims...but accomplices"

[–] solo 2 points 2 weeks ago

I see what you mean, so I need to make the following clarification.

My statement that you quoted is specific to the context of the anthroposcene topic. Not a general one, for all topics.