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“I think it’s important, for the ecosystem to thrive, that there be a way to have premium content to build businesses here,” he said. “That’s a fundamental belief.”
Hard pass.
There isn't a need, that's some bullshit. Maybe some want to monetize their platform, but certainly not all. Fuck this push for finding another way to charge people for shit at every turn being masked as creator support.
I hate it.
@FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz Yep, TechCrunch even addressed it in the article
Developed over the past few months, sub.club shares engineering and design resources with Mammoth, the Mastodon app backed by Mozilla, Long Journey Ventures and Salesforce’s Marc Benioff. Though some fediverse supporters don’t like the idea of VCs and for-profit businesses entering their space, Mammoth’s co-founder Bart Decrem thinks bringing money into the fediverse could help it to thrive.
I saw, I was just venting frustration at that specific viewpoint.
It's annoying that the same tired tactics are being applied to every corner of the internet.
@FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz Eh, personally, I think that as long nobody forces anyone to use something it's fine, more variety is always good for the federated network
You haven't been on the internet long enough. This is how it starts...for like, the billionth time
I mean, how else do you expect things to work? Internet platforms aren't free to operate. Isn't paying creators directly supposed to be the ideal solution, instead of infesting pages with ads?
You're already free to support developers and instance owners financially if they've set up either Patreon, OpenCollective or LiberaPay 🤷 That's money going where it's needed.
If I understand SubClub correctly, it's monetisation on a user level, which in the past has only really given us influencers. I rather enjoy not having that kind of bullshit on the fediverse.
I'm not sure what the difference between SubClub or Patreon is supposed to be. Other than SubClub takes a smaller cut.
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw this. The difference in that they market it as a fediverse extension.
You're already free to support developers and instance owners financially if they've set up either Patreon, OpenCollective or LiberaPay 🤷
Problem is, not enough people are doing it. Case in point: https://join-lemmy.org/donate
So how is your home instance financially sustaining itself? Surely you're helping it, right?
sub.club is not aimed at servers but monetization of content from individual users. Opposing this doesn't mean someone oppose supporting their home instance monetarily.
Idk if this is some misguided insult or a legit question.
There is zero need for monetization and corporate bullshit to infiltrate Lemmy. People see an opportunity to get in on the ground floor of a newer social media and are quick to stink it up with the same old shit. Fuck that, I'm sick of it.
Lemmy does not have to be a carbon copy of the worst parts of the internet to survive. It is not a requirement to be a reddit clone or a cash generator or be profitable to be usable.
How do you expect your instance to cover its costs, then?
The same way they are covered now.
Turns out you're actually the owner of your home instance. I didn't know that when I made my previous comments.
I'm guessing you're currently paying for your instance's upkeep out of pocket? I can't spot any donation links on your instance. This might work for you personally, but do you really expect other, larger instances to do the same? Even donations are only rarely sustainable.
Who the hell ever looked at the internet and figured, "The fediverse is really interesting, but it needs more annoying influencers who can be bought by corporations to peddle their wares"?
No thanks, please pack this up where it will not be found again.
You know what this world needs? More subscriptions! - These assholes.
Any bets this will only work with Mastodon because it was built and designed only against Mastodon?
I wouldn't even be surprised if other Fediverse server apps could simply circumvent sub.club if sub.club assumes that everything else out there works like Mastodon, too.
Just what the fediverse needs, micro-transactions!.
I think I could get behind an instance subscription, granted it wasn’t an obscene amount. I wonder what the upkeep on mastodon.social could be.
Most instances, including yours (and mine), ask for donations. Maybe start there?
If you gave them even $1 a month it would probably cover the hosting costs, though not anybody's time.
Some types of content might take days to research or work on and might not have the audience to allow monetization by ads . mitra exists for those types of things and is open source unlike this project (it seems).
Regardless of how you feel about subscriptions, it's a step in making the fediverse a more viable option for that that create content for a living.