this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2024
56 points (95.2% liked)

Solarpunk

5490 readers
1 users here now

The space to discuss Solarpunk itself and Solarpunk related stuff that doesn't fit elsewhere.

What is Solarpunk?

Join our chat: Movim or XMPP client.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
56
the case for hope (slrpnk.net)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by gandalf_der_12te to c/solarpunk
 

two signals drive the human spirit: positive and negative vibes.

while at first glance, both might seem like legitimate ways to actuate people, one (negative) is devouring, the other (positive) is enhancing. that is why positive news should be preferred here instead of negative ones.

I'm saying this because I see a lot of very dystopian headlines being pushed around here.

(while at first glance, negative news might seem to get more attention; in the long run, positive news is what sticks with people. be encouraging, not discouraging.) :D

all 8 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] poVoq 7 points 2 months ago

Certainly that is the aim here, but since there is just a lot of negative stuff happening right now, it is something we also have to deal with.

[–] AEMarling 3 points 2 months ago

I only read the solarpunk specific posts, and it is very positive. (I get more negative news when I’m ready for it on Bluesky.)

[–] Tiresia 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hope and positivity are two different things. Hope dissociates from the present and the future, externalizing your care into an imagined future you can not affect. Empirically, people with hope fare worse psychologically than those without hope, because those with hope have no coping mechanisms when their hopes get dashed.

What we need is not positive news, but a positive life. Sit in a meadow, share meals with friends, be kind and generous, work at things that mean something to you, make art with passion, and rage during political protests.

When so much of the world's news and media are pushing a narrative of unending consumerism and growth, it is good to keep reminding ourselves with factual news that this world will collapse sooner rather than later.

If it helps, all life ends in misery, be it decreptitude, disease, ecosystems collapse, or all of the above. Life has never been about how it ends, it is about what we do while delaying the end. Everything we do for the future, we do for the future that will actually be, not for the future that gives us comfort to imagine.

[–] MrMakabar 3 points 2 months ago

Hope dissociates from the present and the future, externalizing your care into an imagined future you can not affect.

There is a difference between "wishing" and "hope". "Wishing" actually does externalize the way you can shape the future you want. "Hope" on the other hand just lays out a positive future, which you can strive for.

That "hope" in form of a vision distinct and different to neoliberalism is one of the biggest reason the left has failed so badly in the last decades. We just need a vision of the future, which is practical in the real world. Hence worker cooperatives, permaculture, renewable energy, co-housing and all those other great projects, which actually can replace neoliberalism are so important. Without those working alternatives, we are doomed to just fight the evils of neoliberalism, fascism and dictatorships forever, as we can just never set up that alternative. Obviously we also should not fool ourself into believing it will be perfect if those are gone, but it hopefully is better.

[–] clairexo 2 points 2 months ago

Your examples for a positive life are a relief for me to read, thank you for this <3

Anti-nuclear activist and system theorist Joanna Macey has written with Chris Johnstone about what they call "Active Hope." I recommend the book and the Work That Reconnects, if you are interested. Best summarized by the question "What do I hope for and how can I be active in moving that way?"