Gardeners.
So many gates to maintain.
this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2024
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I grew up in a very conservative Catholic community. Imagine a group where JD Vance and Harrison Butker would be considered mild. If a new person didn't show up in the right kind of clothes and faux humility, people would make a snap judgement and start gossiping. If the new person were wealthy or had a lot of children (8+) or were in a medical field, they would probably be ok. The single parent mom with two kids who dared to send one to public school for better STEM classes? Lol, she had no chance.
There was a "welcome wagon" type group who were supposed to invite new people to coffee and doughnuts with the congregation in the basement after services. I watched the one invite one family and offer a handshake, visibly retracted the hand to skip over Single Mom, and then extend an invitation to the next family. Ice cold.
There was a "welcome wagon" type group who were supposed to invite new people to coffee and doughnuts with the congregation in the basement after services. I watched the one invite one family and offer a handshake, visibly retracted the hand to skip over Single Mom, and then extend an invitation to the next family. Ice cold.
Just like Jesus would have wanted eh
Jesus would understand, because theyβre special
A lot of more traditional hobby communities like HAM and model aircraft clubs, that want you to take a dozen tests to play with them. Those same communities seem to scratch their heads as to why they can't attract new members.
Ham licenses make sense. If you screw up, you ruin things for everyone, so you have to make sure everyone who transmits knows what they're doing. The problem is the elitism, and how many of them look down on anything more modern than vacuum tubes as not being real amateur radios.
But from experience, hams are usually enthusiastic to explain anything related you might be interested in
I think those only need 1 test to play with them, and that's because they are regulated by the government. They want people to follow the rules because if they don't it can come down on all of them.
The biggest one of these that I know of is falconry which requires 1 falconry test, 1 hunt test, 1 inspection, and finding a two year sponsor. Falconry is specifically set up to gatekeep as to protect the sport in the USA.
I'm on board with rules if it involves live animals tbh
Yeah, I have yet to encounter ham gatekeeping beyond "don't broadcast without a licence and callsign". The test itself is all important stuff, as I'm studying for it in Canada.
It's dead because what we're doing right here is an easier way to talk to people around the world. You have to be nerdy enough to love the technology for it's own sake, so that cuts down the pool pretty severely even before the cost and "red tape" come into it.
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Railway and train modellers, of all scales. To their credit, a fair fee people are becoming more open, but especially modelling clubs are often run by old white men with questionable politics and problematic behaviours. They will sneer at anything that's not steam, or at people who run modern instead of vintage trains, or who don't get a train model exactly right the way the original ran that one time in the mid 50s from Bumfuck, Idaho to the middle of nowhere. They have little patience for newbies who might not have internalised all the lingo, or who might need something explained in simple English. If you build something that is not an exact replica of a real world location, they'll say you're not doing model railway, but merely toy trains. And then these same people go and wonder why they can't attract new people to the hobby.
All of this applies to many niche communities. In Germany, especially the older forums that are around since the internet became widly popular show such behavior. Take HiFi- forums for example: If your plugs are not made with gold, you are doing it wrong. Also, if you want to spend money for a hobby, don't bother to start if you are not willing to spend at least an unreasonable ridiculous ammount of Euros.
These enthusiast also complain about a lack of new members. It's the nobody wants to work anymore sentiment, but with niche hobby communities.
Replace "trains" with "amateur radio" and the entire paragraph fits perfectly.
Sad, imagine if ham ran the radio decentralized parallel internet. Progress occurs one silent key at a time
Vegan groups. You will toe the party line comrade! And yes, shellfish are intelligent animals with a rich social and emotional life.
"But they don't have the nerve types and brain structures to feel pain as we do..."
"HERETIC!"
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The guys running /Politics and /WorldNews will ban people if they don't endorse israel committing Genocide.
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North Korea
Fire Emblem Three Houses, the game literally has an NPC named "Gatekeeper" who won a yearly Fire Emblem popularity poll with the highest vote count ever.
Gamers love to call people who focus on one particular type of game or console "not real gamers"
Let's just call it fromsoft fans
Boggles my mind when people claim that using mechanic present in the game is not playing the game "as intended".
Who do you think put the feature there? The pesky magical game dev that spawns at 2 am to code in a mimic tear?
It's bizzare. Man i hate that they have two powerful bosses that attack you ar the same time. I had to try 156 times to get good rng and one guy got stuck in a pillar.
You know they are very weak to sleep and there is also a summon....
NO, THAT'S NOT HOW THE COOL STREAMER DOES IT.
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Not true. We just call people who focus on the wrong kinds of games "assholes."
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Farmers. I'm local and from an established farming family, but because I didn't end up in a branch that's still active I might as well be dog shit, and not just on farming-related matters.
Well, maybe dog shit is a slight exaggeration, but damn they will give you the cold shoulder.
didnβt end up in a branch thatβs still active
Could you elaborate, please? I know Jack about farming and this sounds fascinating
So, my ancestors, at least as far back as great-great grandparents, came here and took some land from the Natives (hey, just admitting it is part of reconciliation). Over time, they had an ever-increasing number of descendants, but the amount of land stayed the same. Some inherited, some presumably didn't, and many wanted to do things other than farming with their life and sold their land. My grandparents never farmed, except just to help friends and family, and the last of their land was sold a few years back. (Conversely, I have a great uncle who owns fuck-you amounts of land)
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North Korea.
lemmy.ml
Security guards.
Sheepdog trials. Though mostly it's about making things go through the gates.
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Do you even care about movies if you donβt watch them in the original language?
To be honest Iβm that guy. But I donβt judge anymore and German dubs are actually top notch compared to other countries. But itβs a tough decision for me to watch a new movie in German just so I can share it with someone else and I will comment on it once!
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hoarders are good at gate keeping
Any "hardcore full loot pvp MMORPG"
TERFs
Gatekeep so hard they require DNA tests
On the flip side, the ukulele community is so open and friendly, helped me stick with a hobby I sucked at to begin with, and now I've released actual music!
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Reddit.
Unless it's completely changed since the APIpocalypse, I'm going to say wrong criticism, right target. It's a big place, only some parts of which gatekeep much.
Yeah, Reddit seems like it does the exact OPPOSITE of gatekeeping. It's progressively lowering the barrier to entry to attract new people.
Before I signed up, it was very much "The narwhal bacons at midnight", with people needing to understand the inside jokes and references, Reddiquette, and other "soft skill" kind of stuff to get upvotes.
I left with the API situation, but even by then, it was nearly mainstream. "Normal people" would tell people about things they saw on Reddit. Of course, nobody would share their username with anyone else. (Nor should they! Lol)
Even since then, I'm occasionally seeing Reddit screenshots from people whose phones I imagined never opened much else aside from messaging apps, image/video-based social media, and their camera app, lol
By time required before you can truly be in and accepted as one (not just a tourist)
- Rural folk
- Expedition sports
- Biker gangs
- Private pilots
- Some festivals
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