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[–] Track_Shovel 10 points 2 months ago

Remember the sacred texts:

You all are making me work too hard, so I'm locking this dumpster fire and drinking my coffee.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 139 points 2 months ago (24 children)

Oh so baity!

You can remove "western democracy" there I guess.

Also nah, I can speak out against my boss, my eventual landlord and protest in the streets, because I live in France, a western democracy.

YMMW.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bet OP hasn't actually done any of the things they listed. Reads like an edgy teenager.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well surely they haven't under threat of all things listed

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 months ago

The French are smart enough to burn cars and loot when their government tries to pull some bullshit. I wish Germans were that smart.

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[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 94 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (24 children)

For the first 2 points: Don't use "Western democracies". This is a US problem. Canada has much stronger labour and home protections.

3rd point: Getting banned online is a "you" problem. Your government has nothing to do with why your shitty opinions get you banned or muted. The fact that you even have the ability to complain about your government online is a luxury many other governments don't afford to their people.

4th point: Whining about cereal variety makes the entire argument hold less water. Who the fuck cares about brands of cereal. Buy your cereal or don't, but shut the fuck up about it. This is an empty complaint about capitalism.

5th point: Fair enough.

I don't directly mean you, OP. Unless you made the meme... In which case I do mean directly you.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think cereal is brought in to demonstrate the absurdity of the situation, where something so basic as worker's or renter's rights are non-existent but somehow energy already has went into something so stupid as cereal, which indeed nobody cares about.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's more about how one of the big reasons America is supposed to be great is all the options you have. 40 brands of cereal is worth it all, is it not?

Not to mention the huge variety of great cheeses, wines, beers and deli meats you should be responsible and not waste your money on.

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[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (12 children)

First point is definetly a problem in other western democracies. In Sweden there is the "loyalty obligation", which states that you have to -- according to one of the centrist unions here -- "put the interest of the company above your own". It is a strong intrusion in your freedom of speech.

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (29 children)

In the US, maybe. But that’s considered a flawed democracy and getting worse all the time. Only 8% of the nations on earth are full democracies, a number that continues to fall because of the pessimism and stupidity promulgated by authoritarian regimes.

[–] salmoura@lemmy.eco.br 32 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Germany on "full democracy" at the same time it bans symbols of Palestinian support and uses the state's violence to contain such manifestations.

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

Germany bans stuff al the time. It’s a consequence of our history and the historic leniency towards extremist edges. Your example is debatable in it’s execution, the general thought however is not.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nobody's perfect, and if you're in Germany you should reach out to your politicians about it.

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[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Haha! Australia is a full democracy? What a joke!

Australia is America's bitch. Even if our politicians gave a shit, they couldn't do anything.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 58 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wait until they find out about non-American western countries

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

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[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Except they tend to have higher union participation so it's harder to fire you and more permissible to speak out about your boss.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Everyone knows that democracy is when you vote for President every four years, and Totalitarian Fascism is when you vote for your union contract every five years.

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

if I speak out online I could be muted or banned

Do you have any idea what social platforms look like when this is not the case?

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The random board on 4chan is a good indicator for how that would look like (very NSFW and depending on your location illegal content there)

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[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 months ago

Not solar.

Not punk.

This is grade 8 social studies.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 38 points 2 months ago

If you think living in a non "western democracy" allows you to shit talk your boss or the government... I invite you to try.

I hope this won't be banned for wishing death on someone.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

More like: I am so happy I live in america.

Everywhere else you have job protection and renters protection

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 27 points 2 months ago (35 children)

Imagine being unironically anti-democracy and also claiming to be a socialist.

[–] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Not all socialists are Stalin-loving tankies, thankfully.

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[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 22 points 2 months ago (9 children)

A lot of these comments reek of boot polish...

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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You live in USA, stop comparing your shit democracy with the rest of us

[–] Coco@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I live in Europe and the whole post resonated hard with me. Not sure in which lala land you live in.

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[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Yeah totally should do that in an autocratic country, lets go with Russia and lets see how long it would take before the original poster is on their way to a Siberian gulag

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Hey, my house has a lot things that need repaired. I should probably bring up these issues with my family, and get to work on fixing them.

Oh, the house down the road is on fire? Guess I should be fine my house is only falling into disrepair.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Whataboutism isn't necessary

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's the "in Africa kids are starving and you're refusing to eat your broccoli" level of argument. Yes, it's bad in Russia, but that doesn't mean everything is perfect in their country. And that doesn't mean they shouldn't strive to make the situation better. Moreover, without any push back it can only get worse.

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[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I like the 1 comma in that whole paragraph...

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 14 points 2 months ago

coercive relationships are the root of evil

[–] ultramaven@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (19 children)

What disgusts me most about conservative voters and capitalists is most of them are so ignorant to admit that capitalism requires balance by virtue. You cannot exist in an environment where everyone is free to have money and buy things with that money and there will always ben enough supply for demand without serious guardrails to ensure it. What MAGA stands for is the idea that capitalism should be highly regulated, highly balanced, and highly fair. These people believe that to their core. They just… don’t vote that way. They’re so arrogant, so propagandized, they’ll continue to vote for the people that wish to continue destabilizing the balance.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 2 months ago

That’s the least this person deserves for that crime against readability.

[–] SloganLessons@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
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