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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by hamid@vegantheoryclub.org to c/announcements@vegantheoryclub.org
 

We are re-instituting the server whitelist. Please let us know servers that should be on the whitelist. I hope to have this done in the next few days.

slrpnk.net

lemmy.vg

sh.itjust.works

lemmy.dbzer0.com

lemmy.zip

hexbear.net

lemmygrad.ml

retrolemmy.com

lemm.ee

lemmy.blahaj.zone

aussie.zone

walledgarden.xyz

what are your thoughts on lemmy.ml and lemmy.world?

are a few that I would put back on the whitelist at first, can you think of others

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[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Can you add aussie.zone

I don't think they're particularly objectionable.

World is horrible. Usaians complaining that everyone who doesn't think bombing people is a good thing are kgb sleeper agents or teenagers rebelling from their parents.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, thanks.

It is really shocking the vicious demand for consensus on all things but especially in war that seems to only come from USian accounts. I honestly believe it to be a totalitarian society.

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I don't mind disagreeing with people but the sheer reality tunnel they're in is horrible.

Every ideology has its edgelords but the average user seems completely in denial that reasonable, thoughtful, and compassionate people might disagree on whether the USA behaves as it presents itself. It's not fucking normal or good to have highly militarised cops, people carrying war machines in the street, army bases in every second country, be constantly at war, make kids swear allegance to the flag etc. The only way they know how to engage with the flaws of their country is to say 'X is something I'd expect in $currentenemynation'.

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about lemmy.world. It's not all bad but there's also a fuck ton of liberal shit on there. A lot of the posts I see are people bitching about communism.

I have no issues with .ml personally, it's the instance I created my main Lemmy account on and I find the people there to be more tolerable than .world.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for participating here and adding your thoughts here. This is what I am leaning towards. I know a lot of the users are essentially neutral but as the largest instance I believe they are being intentionally astroturfed.

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

There is a LOT of fuckery that comes from world at all levels from admin to randos.

[–] Arcanepotato@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 2 months ago

Before this instance (and still, I guess?) I had a few different accounts with the same user name on different instances, specifically because there was a lot of defederation going on.

It is a very mild inconvenience to switch accounts. I understand it also limits who can see what's here, but like others have said, it also keeps this instance peaceful and friendly. People can make accounts if they would like.

I think it's the right move, especially with people obsessed with how others run their own instances. I for one am shocked that carnists feel entitled to determine how other beings should live 🙄

[–] Alliegaytor@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 2 months ago

I think this list is a good start. As long as there is a simple enough process to decide on what to add (or remove) it won't matter too much if a few instances are missing for a bit. Better to gradually build up the list of federated instances than to have what happened before.

Hard pass on lemmy.world, I think it should not be considered unless a lot changes with their moderation and userbase. Currently it feels like the worst of Reddit decided to land there and I don't see that changing any time soon. This instance will feel a lot safer to us vegans and we can discuss veganism without them manipulating the discussion with their votes. Also, those libs can't downvote what they can't see :)

[–] Five 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Additional whitelist suggestions:

Blocklist suggestion:

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks for this and I'll keep it for if I revisit this, however I think we've decided to keep open federation and just block lemmy.world and lemmy.ca for now as these are the worst instances with bad gate keeping of their users.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 2 months ago

OK as part of the cleanup I blocked lemmy.world.

To be honest, maybe that is enough? It would be easier to manage a black list of large instances with troll users versus whitelisting every small instance. It is up to the new admin 🙏

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago

thelemmy.club would like to be on your whitelist 💚

Y'all seem cool. We have like, 100 active users and none that cause much trouble.

[–] MsSprouts@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 2 months ago

I would argue against lemmy.world as there are too many people from there who are too closed-minded.

[–] NeroC_Bass@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago