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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 101 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Biden is a veteran politician, a little horse trading of policies for support is nothing new to him. And besides, if you're slugging it out with a populist nationalism type, Bernie's advice is probably some of the wisest you could ask for anyway.

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 76 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We don’t deserve Bernie. He’s too good for us 🥲

[–] grrgyle 82 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My friend, you deserve a thousand Bernies

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Yes, vote local, and vote every time there's a Bernie like politician. Grass roots brought us everyone from Eugene Debs to Bernie Sanders and all before and will come after.

It's local politics where we can enact real change.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably because there were a ton of calls for either of them to be the candidate instead, and they didnt want a split dem race if Biden stayed in.

Its concerning they were supporting him because it shows theyre not in on whatever party leadership talks took place for Biden to step down.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Neither of them are leadership, but I still wouldn't count on that. I think having a strong show of support makes Biden stepping down look classy instead of like he's been hooked offstage like a muppet.

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You know it was Pelosi wielding that hook.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

I maintain he needs an elder abuse screening

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago

Nah, this was a Biden call. Hes got 50+ yrs doing this and is in the big chair right now. No one could have unseated him if he wasent okay with it.

lol that is some headline gore - mixed contradictory metaphors? Oof.

  • went down swinging [fists]-> went down fighting (somewhat obvious to everyone)
  • swinging left -> the article is trying to say he was moving further left ideologically
  • … but it feels like he was swinging (fists) left a lot of the time.

For me, in response to this statement, it really comes down to Biden being somewhat disconnected from the reality on the ground for most Americans. He and his campaign have had difficulty communicating successes for a lot of reasons… but one of the big reasons is that the “wins” on paper largely aren’t translating to making enough of a positive difference to a large enough number of people in terms of lived experience. Like ok great you saved the economy… in an era where most people have nowhere near enough scratch to invest in stocks. So all the “saving” mostly goes into corporate stock buybacks and exec comp packages. The fact that they still don’t seem to understand this stuff is deeply dismaying, and I think it’s pretty clearly a party leadership issue. You can propagandize all you want, but at the end of the day, Democratic and left-leaning voters tend to be far less tribal and gullible than the Republican base these days, and trying to bullshit us on things that are obviously not entirely true is just not going to work very well.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's not running anymore. You don't have to pretend he's a progressive anymore. No one bought it.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

He did beat Medicare, you gotta give him that.