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“I can still remember when doner kebabs were sold for €3.50,” reminisced one teenager amid calls for a price brake to stop rising kebab costs.

The German capital is the birthplace of that ubiquitous European fast food, the doner kebab, and it shows.

Kebab shops line streets of many German cities, particularly in Berlin, and the scent of roasting, skewered meat is never far off.

Some two-million doner kebabs — meat wrapped in bread, topped with sauces and vegetables — are consumed a day in Germany, according to an industry association, quite a lot for a country of 83 million people. And the doner kebab has even supplanted the old stalwart, the currywurst — fried veal sausage topped with ketchup and curry powder — as the most popular fast-food dish in the country, according to a 2022 survey.

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 137 points 4 months ago (19 children)

the currywurst — fried veal sausage topped with ketchup and curry powder

Who the hell told this person that Currywurst is made with veal? The standard is pork. And it's grilled, not fried.

[–] Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the article was made up with an LLM?

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Common to write a paragraph and some keywords yourself and have an LLMfill out the rest I'm afraid

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago

Beef sausage is the norm for currywurst in the Frankfurt area, but pork is much more common everywhere else.

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[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I remember 3,50€ from fucking 2007. They make it seem like the prices have gone up from that within the last two years. Meat is way too cheap anyway.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In 2017 I could still find Döner for 4€ in Nürnberg. Now it's 7,50€.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Which is a clear sign for Döner being consistent with overall rise of prices due to inflationin the last 20 years. Maybe it has been too cheap for too long. Bad working conditions, a lot or family business where family members "help out" to deal with the heavy competition etc.

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[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

Meat is way too cheap anyway.

This is why I hate that they are focussing on Döner and are even asking for a Dönerpreisbremse. For all I care, discuss falafels, french fries, anything that has no meat in it. I'm not a vegan or vegetarian but it is hilarious to complain that a meat based dish should still be the "easily affordable" fast food for everyone. In 2024. Come on.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I paid between 2,50€ and 4€ around 2016-2018 (depending on the city and place). It's far more recent than 2007.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Meat is way too cheap anyway.

What do you mean "meat is way too cheap"? Are you a kebab joint owner?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

From an ecological point, meat is too cheap as long as the general population can afford to eat it more than once or twice per week. Meat is very ineffective to produce, requiring vast amounts of water and cattle feed to be grown. It was never supposed to be a three times a day staple of every meal, and the fact that we have normalized it to that point is really unhealthy both for ourselves and the planet we are ruining to keep production going.

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[–] explore_broaden@midwest.social 20 points 4 months ago

At least in the US there are a number of subsidies that help to keep meat prices low, which isn’t really great because it increases demand for one of the more environmentally damaging foods to produce.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A pack of dried beef is like 4 euros where i live. The vegan alternative is smoked beets, which basically tastes the same but comes in a smaller packet and is like 8.50. So you're telling me it's cheaper to raise a cow, feed it, make sure it doesn't move too much, drive it somewhere to get killed, get it butchered, and smoked and dried than slice beets and smoke it?

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Could it be that the beets are too expensive, by which I really mean that the proletariat is exploited and denied the benefits of the surplus gained by their increasing productivity.

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

2007 I paid 2,50€ as a student. Yes meat is way too cheap but today I even pay at least 7€ for a vegetarian one.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

2007?

I payed 4€ at my local döner shop before the pandemic. Last year it was 6 and last week i payed 8€ for it.

Doubled the price since 2020!!

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

When I was a teenager, every wednesday I went to the movies next town over because they were showing a random movie. I was not allowed to drive, so I took the train. Ticket was 1,30€. Today, the ticket costs 5,90€. "Inflation".

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was expecting you would say you went to the next town because they had kebab... :(

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thr town I live in has like 10000 souls. Gastronomy looks like this: 1 Italian restaurant, 1 Chinese restaurant, a Chinese take-away and 5 kebap places.

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any clues as yo your age or when these two prices took place?

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Do you remember the döner riots of '24?

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Bell riots are due in a couple months. Maybe this is the real catalyst.

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Stranger things have happened. Reminds me of the Bavarian beer riots of 1844.

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago (7 children)

The local version of this in southern California is the Banh Mi, a Vietnamese sandwich on a baguette. Less than 10 years ago you could get a good banh mi for 3 or 4 bucks, and these days even the cheapest I've seen are $6.50 and many places are charging over $10 for this perfect sandwich. At least double in under 10 years :(

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand, feeling angst is part of being German, isn't it?

You guys came up with the word.

[–] G14D0S@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (6 children)

You don't have a word in your language that has a similar meaning? (like "fear" for example)

[–] raef@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

The word "angst" was taken over as a part of the language. It's a specific type of fear, sort of mixed with anxiety. Fear and angst aren't interchangable

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[–] norimee@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

"Angst" in german is just the translation of normal fear. It doesn't has the implication of existential threat it has in english.

I think you guys got the word from Sigmund Freud and gave it a very loaded meaning it doesnt have in german.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

As a southern Californian, I measure inflation by the cost of tacos.

Inflation is out of control, despite whatever metrics the government uses. Tacos don't lie.

[–] UserNameIsRequired@lemy.lol 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

This thumbnail goes hard.

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