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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] cerement 68 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Texas leaders invited them into the state in the first place – “You made your bed, now lie in it.”

[–] 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That'd be valid if the leaders who invited them in were the only ones suffering, but it's regular citizens, including people who've been vehemently against bitcoin mining operations, who are getting fucked.

[–] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m pretty sure not hooking Texas up to the grid is what’s causing the suffering and that was the choice of the politicians, same people that incentivized the miners with cheaper energy.

[–] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you, but the mentality that "Eh, they supported a shitty system, now they're suffering the consequences" is implying that everyone affected supported the shitty system, which they definitely didn't.

[–] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but there are enough of them that voted in their leaders and after a chunk of Texans froze to death you would think they’d have any kind of self awareness to see what causes their power issues.

How many times do you need to touch the hot stove to learn a lesson?

[–] 2 points 4 days ago

palm is all scar tissue, touches the stove for the Nth time One of these times I won't feel the burn

[–] 6 points 4 days ago

The majority did. Rather then blaming the bitcoin miners operating legally, in a bad system, blame the politicians and those that voted for them and continue to do so.

I think it’s perfectly fine to shut down bitcoin mining if it’s bad for the power grid, but then you should also look at what else is bad and shut it too. The law should be fair.

[–] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How do these idiots wind up in power, though? Oh yeah, citizens keep electing them.

[–] 4 points 4 days ago

Texas is one of the mostly severely gerrymandered places in the country, with openly hostile voter restrictions targeting democratic voters

And republicans still only barely win

[–] 0 points 4 days ago

But, those citizens voted.

[–] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Those people elected those leaders though

[–] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Every single citizen of texas Voted for the same leaders and policies? 🤨

[–] 2 points 4 days ago

No, just the majority

[–] 16 points 4 days ago

Please, they’re in Mexico or Korea when something like this happens

[–] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At this point, what doesn't crash the Texas power grid?

[–] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's fine as long as it's not hot, or cold, or it rains. As long as there's no weather, it's okay.

[–] 3 points 4 days ago

Whether it's cold or whether it's hot, there will be weather whether or not.

[–] 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Whoa there, the free market will fix this problem surely, nothing to worry about

[–] 5 points 4 days ago

I've seen a few politicians use this line. It never works because they don't take into account one massively important factor, there is in fact no market.

If there were multiple power companies that you could get your energy from they'd have a point. But there isn't, so they don't.

[–] 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And so they PAY them to temporarily shut down when the grid gets hot. And the rest of us are then told to turn up our AC because it’s our fault the grid is poorly mismanaged.

[–] 4 points 4 days ago

Why would the power companies change when they get to charge higher rates this way

[–] 13 points 4 days ago


As long as we keep getting hurricanes knocking out power for millions, the grid should be fine. As long as it doesn't also take out power stations...

[–] 8 points 4 days ago

Well fuck around and find out...