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Disney, Netflix Ask Canadian Court to Kill Proposed 5% Revenue Tax (www.investopedia.com)

submitted 4 months ago by otter@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 60 points 4 months ago

I believe it's more than time we start forcing multinational corporations to pay taxes based on where they made their revenue and not based on where their headquarter is established.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Pay up, billionaires.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Presumably you meant: "Bribe someone for 1/1000th the cost."

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

It's mildly insulting how cheap some people can be bought for. Like a few grand "contributions" from a multi billion dollar company is enough? Come on, have some self respect.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago

Disney will just cry and whine about how their streaming service isn't making enough money.

And that's their problem. Not ours.

Their failure to develop a business strategy shouldn't mean that the rest of the world should pay for it. Netflix made money back when they were the de facto streaming service, maybe the old model of vertically integrated production & distribution doesn't work any more, and maybe, just maybe, they should try catering to consumers who just want a one-stop shop , instead of trying to muscle in on every segment of the supply chain?

As a society, we should never have let content producers and content distributors merge. And while we can't do anything about Disney in Canada, we could, eg, force Bell to turn back time and split into it's network and production businesses. Same for Rogers. Same for Shaw and so forth.

[–] normonator@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Raise it more instead. Fuck em.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca -3 points 4 months ago

Yes. Let's tell them how much we want our subscription costs to go up.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 months ago

Unsurprising. Anyone taking bets on how far this will go? :D

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Does that work? Can I just ask the government to tax me less, or does it require a campaign contribution?

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Nope they gonna raise the prices no matter what. That 2% nato requirement needs to be funded.

[+] nik282000@lemmy.ca -8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Using the first numbers I found Canada is ~7% of Netflix' total subscriber count, and less than 1/3 the number of subscribers as the US. They could shut off service to Canada for a month until people start burning down service Canada locations and the tax gets dropped.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

until people start burning down service Canada locations

Maybe a decade ago when Netflix was actually highly-regarded and held a near-monopoly on streaming video.

Today with the massive balkanisation of streaming video, and with Netflix developing a reputation for cancelling good shows and producing poor-quality adaptations? I think most people would post a couple of angry Facebook comments and then move on.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The lack of availability of legal channels to obtain media does not generally stop the availability of said media to the average consumer, especially in a country with high tech permeance.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Streaming is legal in Canada, regardless of the legality if the hosts. Moreover, we have precedent in Canada that tops off your fines for illegal downloading at about $500 for all previous non-commercial infringements of any kind, which means any suits brought against Canadians are at a loss before you even have a meeting with their lawyers.

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago

Yeah Netflix just kicked me off their service last month by completely discontinuing the service level I was willing to pay for, and then had the audacity to send me 4 follow up emails asking if I'd "changed my mind". I would still be subscribed to Netflix if it wasn't for (checks notes) Netflix.

The days of Netflix valuing their customers are over. Welcome to enshittification.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The more sane way to interpret this is that it's a small enough portion of their subscriber count that they really don't need to be bitching about 5%.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

But that kind of thinking doesn't make the line go up!

[–] azi@mander.xyz 11 points 4 months ago

Will it? Facebook/instagram did a similar thing in response to the Online News Act by banning any Canadian news links and in my experience people blamed facebook not the government

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People would turn around and subscribe to Crave, which is Canadian and therefore not affected by the law.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I found inexpensive IPTV a very acceptable alternative to streaming and expensive pay services.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only if they have content those people are interested in watching.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

People who won't pirate no matter what happens will just resort to subscribing to whatever service is available to them and watch whatever is on there, I'm 100% sure the government would barely get any complaints. Heck, it wasn't that long ago that it wasn't even a choice, your watched what was playing or what you had taken the time to bother and record.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd just go back to the seas lol

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

A pirated movie can be played on any device, it can be backed up to protect against loss, it lets you choose the quality and file size, it generally comes with more options for audio and subtitle language, and you only pay for it once in the form of technical services (bandwidth through your ISP, access to a VPN, access to other private services).

Conversely Netflix offers you access to a movie on a limited number of devices, they can remove your access to that movie at any time, regardless of the settings you have chosen they can reduce the quality of a movie at any time, there is usually only one option for audio/subtitles, and you pay every month regardless of your usage of the service.

If given the two option NO international corporation would ever choose Netflix, why should consumers?