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President Joe Biden could make a decision within days whether to remain a candidate for reelection, said Hawaii’s governor who participated in a recent meeting with Biden and other Democratic governors and whose family has known the president for years.

And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.

Green, who was a physician on Hawaii’s Big Island before he was elected governor, said everyone has parents or grandparents who have moments that aren’t that great or pauses in their ability to express themselves clearly. But, he added, they aren’t discarded because of their experience, wisdom and their role in the family.

Green was quick to point out that Trump is only three years younger than Biden and both will have bad days going forward. But he argued that temperament is more important than age.

“For God’s sake, these two guys have to hold the nuclear codes,” Green said. “I don’t want someone who tweets in the middle of the night and rages at other countries. That is not good. That’s not the problem we have with President Biden.”

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 83 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.

If that happens, prepare to see the narrative of certain people switch from "no one should vote for Genocide Joe" to "no one should vote for pro-cop Harris." Anything but tell people to stop the dictator from gaining power.

Edit: Wow, that didn't take long.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This effectively changes nothing for me, I’m no fan of Harris or Biden, but they ain’t fascists

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Exactly, but that doesn't seem to be an argument they care about.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You are not the problem. Some people can't decide between Joe, and the party that wants to end democracy in this country.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All I ask of people is vote for anything but trump. A sack of potato chips is better.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not good enough. You have to vote for the person most likely to beat him. It's a numbers game.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Wrong. A vote for Stein, or RFK, or West is still effectively a vote for Trump.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (51 children)

We don't have to prepare for it, it's already happening, at least on Lemmy.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. Not only that, but the attacks from the GOP and media won't stop. They will simply change from "Biden is too old" to racist garbage like "Harris might be our first DEI president" (That's an actual headline from the NY Post, which I refuse to link to).

No matter what happens, Democrats will need thick skin.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She's also not a white male, so I fully expect them to go all out saying that execrable shit out loud.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am not pro-Biden, but I'd vote for Harris. I think she's a stronger candidate.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

She's a marginally better candidate if he endorses her enthusiastically. She's deeply flawed and unpopular but if Biden gives her credit for everything he accomplished she'd be trading "absolutely ancient" for "former uncharismatic prosecutor".

There are much better choices.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I agree that there are much better choices. Alas, Democrats are right of center and punch left.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well personally, I don't want an openly fascist raving lunatic to be US president, but that's just me, of course.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That sounds more like Trump than Biden. The trouble is Trump is probably what we'll get if Biden doesn't suck it up and drop out of the race.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Of course I meant Trump. How can that not be blindingly obvious?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's impossible to tell without knowing whether you're taking to a Trump cultist.

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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I don't think we'll fare any better if Harris gets the nomination either. I don't understand why the party keeps backing the most unlikable candidates possible over and over and over.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Because they'll rather turn over their country to the fascists than nominate someone who might upset their sponsors.

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[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

he's already decided.

he decided a week ago.

you backhandedly calling for him to drop out only fuels the bullshit media narrative that's not focused on trump's myriad of seriously disqualifying incidents OR project 2025.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm extremely cynical, but unless it was like Bernie Sanders (which we all know they wouldn't allow to replace Biden) I don't think it will matter much if he leaves or stays.

If he leaves, Trump will win, enact project 2025, jail political opponents, then murder them, then other massacres and mass imprisonment will occur amongst "unamericans."

If he stays, Trump is less likely to win, but the Nazis didn't take over Germany peacefully. For all the lethal defense systems the White House has, it doesn't matter against sheer numbers of stupid people. The only way this works is if a significant majority of Americans say no to trump, and and oppose a coup. This won't happen.

I think if you live in a state that will be directly impacted by project 2025 (most states, some northern ones have no shale oil and have no immediate plans) shits gonna get real shitty real quickly.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I also think this will become an era of true fuck around and find out. The blue states can refuse to fund the U.S. government. Good luck getting the military to do anything if they don't get paid.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If Trump wins it will be a political coup followed by a military junta within a few years once it becomes clear how badly Trumps plans really fuck the overall economy.

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[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand this. Biden already said he didn't plan to drop out.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

That's exactly what I would expect him to say, until he drops out, at which point I would expect him to say that it was his plan all along.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago

He's stated that publically, yes. But who knows what's being said behind closed doors.

[–] brrk@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 months ago

VERMIN SUPREME 2024

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