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President Joe Biden could make a decision within days whether to remain a candidate for reelection, said Hawaii’s governor who participated in a recent meeting with Biden and other Democratic governors and whose family has known the president for years.

And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.

Green, who was a physician on Hawaii’s Big Island before he was elected governor, said everyone has parents or grandparents who have moments that aren’t that great or pauses in their ability to express themselves clearly. But, he added, they aren’t discarded because of their experience, wisdom and their role in the family.

Green was quick to point out that Trump is only three years younger than Biden and both will have bad days going forward. But he argued that temperament is more important than age.

“For God’s sake, these two guys have to hold the nuclear codes,” Green said. “I don’t want someone who tweets in the middle of the night and rages at other countries. That is not good. That’s not the problem we have with President Biden.”

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All I ask of people is vote for anything but trump. A sack of potato chips is better.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not good enough. You have to vote for the person most likely to beat him. It's a numbers game.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well so far that isn't Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. Who do you suggest?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I'm not the one saying not to vote for them. I will vote for whoever the nominee is.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wrong. A vote for Stein, or RFK, or West is still effectively a vote for Trump.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you live in a swing state. If your state is solidly red or blue, due to the electoral college, you vote effectively doesn't matter.

I kind of don't have an issue with third party voters when it comes to places where a handful of third party votes won't change the EC outcome.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

With a wannabe fascist dictator who wants to create a Christian nationalist country on the one hand, and abortion rights on the ballot, in one way or another, in many states on the other, it's possible for a lot of states to become swing states this time around. A lot of people who might not otherwise vote may show up to vote for pro-choice candidates and ballot measures. That could be enough to turn some red states purple. Please don't waste your vote on a third party Presidential candidate even if you think your vote doesn't matter.

If you want to support third parties, do it at the state and local levels. You might find that hard to do though, since most of them, including West's Justice for All party and RFK's we the people party don't have any other candidates running for any other offices at any other level.

These people are only running to siphon votes from other candidates and sway the election. West even has Republican operatives working for his party in North Carolina and Arizona to help him get on the ballots. We only know that because those states require signature gathers be registered with the states. You can bet your bottom dollar that they are helping him, RFK, and Stein in other states too.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

none of those candidates will get enough popular votes to win a state's electoral votes and 2 out of 3 aren't on enough ballots to total 270 votes. the only message a person who is on the left side of politics teaches the democratic party is that your vote isn't worth pursuing since you aren't going to vote for a democrat anyway. instead they will pursue the votes they have the possibility to get. often those people are much more centrist or right wing. you're taking yourself out of any potential influential position of influence.

this is a binary choice. the winner will either be trump or biden. any vote not for biden is an indirect vote for trump because it's not going towards the only other viable candidate. this is how our system works and it's far too late to change it for this year.