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[–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 134 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I feel like I am missing A LOT of context.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Kendrick Lamar Unveils New Verse in Drake Diss ‘Euphoria’ at ‘Pop Out’ Concert in Los Angeles

The concert was livestreamed by Amazon Music and its hip-hop/ R&B brand Rotation as part of the company’s “Forever the Influence” celebration of Black musicians and creatives for Black Music Month.

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/kendrick-lamar-new-verse-drake-diss-euphoria-pop-out-concert-1236042800/

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 41 points 3 months ago (5 children)

There is something deeply ironic about Kendrick Lamar saying "fuck the industry too", on stage, to a massive crowd, sponsored by one of the largest companies in the world.. https://youtu.be/8T5VxlU6HbY?si=MFQkI43fl9QYFSqP&t=9412

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Yet you participate in the industry. Curious!"

I'm not a big fan of Kendrick's music but...it's not really ironic. He's calling out a very specific part of the industry that's bad (the protection of artists by labels/other artists). He's right - it's insane that Drake is pushed so hard when he's been a known groomer for YEARS.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Also like are all the companies expected to dissolve to become a bunch of free lance contractors?

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Think he means the music industry, like record labels, and not The Industry or capitalism as a whole. Amazon isn’t a significant player in the music industry, at least not in context of the post. The music industry is somewhat known to protect its artists even if they are sex predators. Kendrick is alleging that Drake is a pedophile enjoying the protection of said industry. He’s not rebelling against Amazon or crowds.

I feel like Lemmy users are more prone to making things about The System when, often, it wasn’t about that to begin with. Also you left the share tracking in your link

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 18 points 3 months ago

Also, you can definitely criticize something whilst participating in it, even if you have a choice to abstain. Like I don’t have to eat spicy burritos, but when I do, I’m going to still complain that they haven’t made antacid suppositories. You can ask for a better life.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Eh.

Kendrick is on that level everyone in "the industry" is just happy whenever he releases/performs anything. But he's not like Drake or Taylor Swift where they're only trying to make as much money as possible.

Like, what do you want him to do? Perform solely on street corners?

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know, right? Most popular artists nowadays will just take money from anyone and then will say corny shit like "I'm a rebel" or something along those lines. No self reflection.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

Well, if anyone knows how fucked up and vampiric the industry is, its people engaging with it.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

that "ironical" situation has more influence on the world than a punk band refusing all collaboration and saying "fuck the industry" to 10 people in some shitty bar

to create may be to resist, like somebody wrote once, but what happens to that sparkle of a resistance when the song is promoted by a monster like Amazon or when Trump dances to that song at one of his rallies

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone has forgotten it ten minutes later. That time you partied with a punk band is a memory that sticks with you. It's not all about reach, it's about connection.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

you're not going to "fuck the industry" with "a memory that sticks with you"

and that punk memory too will be forgotten sooner or later

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If there's depth to your work, and you're true to the ideals you espouse, then people will respect you and connect with that. Maybe on a smaller scale, but to a greater degree, and for longer.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

greater degree? how do you measure that?

longer? pop songs with no ideals seem to stand the test of time.

i don't know why it's so important for you to believe these statements 🤷

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Measure it? It's entirely subjective and therefore isn't compatible with measurement, obviously.

I think the vast majority of shitty pop songs fade away.

You should look in the mirror maybe. You're still here, too. Arguing about something that doesn't matter, against a point you don't seem to have understood. I guess we're as bad as each other.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Kendrick a crip, so it would be crip walking?

[–] obre@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The OP might be blood affiliated and not want to call it crip walking. Notice the red balloons in his pfp

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wait, bloods and crisps are still a thing?

[–] Leg@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Bloods and crepes are definitely still going strong.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean... they still let that LAPD gang wear their colors everywhere.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 31 points 3 months ago

Yeah, what?

[–] cucumberbob@programming.dev 23 points 3 months ago

Others have given the rap beef context, but nobody has mentioned why a blood would have been on stage or why that was significant. At the end of the concert, Kendrick got a bunch of people from a bunch of LA gangs on stage and made a big show of unity.

TMZ article - mainly as a source, the article itself isn’t fantastic

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The only thing I heard recently is about a Toronto-born artist Drake being accused in a song by Kendrick Lamar of being a pedo. Might be that?

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

i actually thought that there was a 7 year old gang member on his tv. is blood a new slang for beef or something?

[–] vrek@programming.dev 26 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I think it's "a 7 year old" "blood walking" ... Back in the day it used to be "crypt walking" and the bloods and crypts were rival gangs.

Anyway blood/crypt walking is a "dance". Think of it like almost a jig or skanking but gangster style.

[–] byrona@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 24 points 3 months ago

me and the boys

[–] Leg@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

It's my headcanon that crips are necromancers now.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't mean gang member?

[–] obre@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It does, but in this context it's a style of dance associated with the gangs (blood walking), rather than the 7yo

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago

The gangs really need to hyphenate more.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Ohhhhh, I remember the crip walk from when I was younger in the early 00s but never heard of the blood walk.