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[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Yeah, down with the violence of the state! Although, to prevent bad actors and armed gangs we do need to have some sort of militia to protect the vulnerable from the greedy and cruel, human nature being what it is. And to prevent said militia from turning into the very thing it was supposed to protect us from, we need some sort of oversight, preferably from a democratically elected body, that tells the militia how to act and prevent them from violating the rights of the people. Oh wait I just reinvented violence of the state hehe.

People in Somalia hearing that America has a 1.8% homelessness rate: "wow. Things are really just as bad over there."

[–] Prunebutt 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That's not what anarchists refer to as a state.

A common anarchist definition of the state is: The institutionized power structure which alienates people from the businesses of their daily lives.

If the whole constituency of the community that the militia protects is involved in controlling that militia, that's not state violence anymore.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (10 children)

If the whole constituency of the community that the militia protects is involved in controlling that militia,

Like having the militia answer to a democratically-elected government?

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago (30 children)

A common anarchist definition of the state is: The institutionized power structure which alienates people from the businesses of their daily lives.

So not the government at all, right? Because they aren't responsible for hardly any alienating in my experience. I would attribute any alienating I feel to corporations.

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[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sigh, it always ends up being a semantic issue because people hear "anarchist" and think "no government". When really, the political philosophy of anarchism is a little different.

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[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Yeah, this is a point espoused by people who see themselves as wolves, but end up finding out they are actually pigs.

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

"Violence [is] The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived." - Robert A Heinlein

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 36 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I mean, this is literally an advocacy for racist authoritarianism, tho.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's advocacy for "might makes right".

If the little piggies had grown up in the wild, they would be Razorbacks and would rip the wolf to shreds and then eat him. Or perhaps the little piggies could have spent some of their wealth contracting wolfhounds to keep their houses safe. Instead, they trusted to their ivory-tower theories and got eaten.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wolfs do not normally loose to individual wild pigs

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] essell@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The fourth little pig build it's house out of the skulls of wolves. Which wasn't very stable, but it sure got the message across.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

The fourth little.pig built his house out of depleted uranium and the wolf was like "dude... What the fuck?"

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 months ago (6 children)

So what you're saying is that it's okay for me to just walk into someone's home, murder the entire family and just live there now because I'm the most violent of all?

[–] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

You just described colonialism.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's literally American history.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's literally most of world history.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yup, until the authorities turn up with their monopoly on violence and deprive you of your newly gained property

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

That anarchist wolf would make for a sick tattoo

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We were robbed of a truly incredibly human being when Graeber passed away. I'm a huge fan of "Debt: The First 5000 Years". And I'm heartbroken that "Bullshit Jobs" was the last publication he produced.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You may be happy to know he and David Wengrow wrote The Dawn of Everything. It was published posthumously but his fingerprints are all over it. Great book to boot! Pirate Enlightenment was also published posthumously. Haven't had a chance to read it but I think it's safe to assume it's great too.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Werewolf: The Apocalypse intensifies!

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 5 months ago (39 children)

While I find anarchist ideas intriguing, I don't like how the comic seems to encourage a violent takeover of property like this.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yep. classic "the bad guy is actually good bc i drew him as a cool furry"

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[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

The ultimate way to show dominance is to eat your opponent. I'm craving BBQ for dinner, thanks Lemmy!!

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