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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 116 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Thomas Matthew Crooks did not do enough aim training.

From Wikipedia:

Crooks fired from a roof outside the rally venue using an AR-15–style semi-automatic rifle, firing eight rounds before being killed by a sniper from the Secret Service Counter Assault Team.

Dude had 8 fucking attempts. Thats almost too unbelievable.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Ok look without getting into the ethics of political violence that's embarrassing.

I am a baby with rifles, having only shot like 200 rounds? but I thought it was a low calibre rifle from the sound in the video and thought "wow decent accuracy from a 22 at 100 meters!". Like I struggle to land on the target at 50 with open sights.

But an assault rifle? really?

Anyway this post was about "he is dead" being an absurd thing to say in "what we know" don't shoot into crowds kids. That's not very nice.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean the guy was probably stressed the fuck out. I assume he had some sort of scope but who knows what psychological state he was in.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 4 months ago

Yeah I imagine whatever your reasons it's probably a pretty stressful to carry out a suicide attack.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I read somewhere he only had iron sights

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

That seems like the kind of information only the feds would have access to.

Im somewhat skeptical that they would release that information, but i havent checked the news to the level of detail.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

TMZ has a photo from someone at the event of the shooter on the roof. It's a good enough quality photo that you can see the rifle doesn't have a scope.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It was definitely not sourced so I'm doubtful too. But who would lie on the Internet ? ^/s

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Don't they make .22 AR15 style rifles?

I think they're marketed to children

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago

Idk, I live in a place where guns that look scary are banned and my interest is blackpowder and old timey low calibre target shooting /shrug

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

The AR-15 is nominally chambered in .223 Remington or 5.56×45mm NATO according to Wikipedia. Although some are chambered at 0.22. But typically gun makes targeted at children are not semi-automatic which is a feature of AR-15 style rifles.

While this is partially a safety concern, I remember target shooting alternatively with a pump-action and a semi-auto and my cousin and I would be tempted to lose our temper with an evasive target and mag-dump. With the pump action I didn't have the option but to aim every time.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

It has to be hard to hit an ear from that distance, in fact, I would say near impossible.

[–] schnick@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Right, like he was never meant to kill trump.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 48 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Ok, the conspiracy shit is already old. 0% chance it was rigged.

[–] Marighost@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You mean the party known for lying and falsification didn't have an assassin plant meant to take the fall for the planned assassination attempt against the fascist presidential candidate in order to further bolster the support from his allies and voters?

There's no way this wasn't staged. And quite frankly, if the repubs are allowed to make up stuff, so is everyone else.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

I mean I don't think you can shoot an just ear even as a controlled joke, much less from that distance...

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago

quite frankly, if the repubs are allowed to make up stuff, so is everyone else.

Log off. Please log off, you are doing significant brain damage to yourself.

[–] dessimbelackis@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

You actually think Donald Trump agreed to put himself in the firing line of a gun with live ammo? People died bud. Think more critically.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

it's a 20 year old dude, almost a kid, who has a documented historical record of being SHIT at aiming.

why the fuck would they get THAT person to botch an assassination? What if he tried to miss and accidentally hit instead?

[–] verdare@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

I wouldn’t say 0% chance, but I agree that it is unhealthy to jump straight to conspiratorial thinking. Especially given just how little we know at this point.

[–] Track_Shovel 3 points 4 months ago

Just like the 2020 election

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago

Jet fuel can't shoot steel BBs!

you need to lay off the petrol sniffing mate.