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They owned up to it, and immediately dealt with the issue.
It's open source, free, and run by volunteers who bust their asses to make these releases happen. I wouldn't worry too much about it if it's been working the other 99% of the time for you, and this one issue has you on the fence about it...
I agree, mistakes and vulnerabilites happen in all software commercial and open. Now I can only speak for RetroDECK but, we also make mistakes and need to do minor patches to fix those.
I think Jorge and the team handled it as you should: Be transparent, inform on all channels they can and learn from your mistakes.
Me personally have full confidence in them.
Those that try to hide or shift blame of mistakes are a bigger red flag in my book.
What we need is a popup IN THE OS that tells users how to troubleshoot.
Separate from the OS core, updatable individually, like an RSS feed with persistent popups using KDialog etc.
People, please; look at this.
It's inevitable that mistakes will happen.
Exactly. These kind of things happen from time to time; hell even big corpo OSes mess up. They said they’d taken time to fix their process to prevent this problem happening again.
If it becomes a pattern I’d become concerned. So far, it was inconvenient.
CLIphobia is a new one to me.
A lot of people on here are new to the ecosystem 🤷
Some of us also are just tired of administering the system and just want to use some applications.
Fedora is run by RedHat/IBM employees but OK
No, that's not at all true.
Red Hat owns the Fedora brand, sponsors the project financially, technically, and with some infrastructure, but does not own the project, nor pay everyone involved. Aside from a project lead here or there, it's all community run. Literally anyone can contribute or volunteer.
If Red Hat were to stop officially supporting Fedora tomorrow, can you guarantee the project will still survive?
Can Android/AOSP survive if Alphabet were to give up on it tomorrow?
Sorry to be rude, but can't you just go read the docs to understand this?
Fedora is a fork of Red Hat, the same way Ubuntu is a fork of debian. Yes, it is now singular to being its own thing. It is also not corporate controlled.
I think you've got your ordering and terms a bit confused, there. There's no forking as such going on in the EL ecosystem.
To explain it as simply as I can, as there are quite a few people mixing this up in here.
Fedora is *upstream *of Red Hat (Or RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) to be exact - Redhat is a company owned by IBM that does a bunch of stuff, not just RHEL).
Fedora feeds into CentOS Stream (Essentially a staging area for RHEL). This has no relation to CentOS Linux, which is dead.
RHEL is then built from CS at point releases and sold commercially through licencing.
There are distros such as Rocky, Alma, Oracle Enterprise Linux and possibly some smaller ones that strive to be near exact clones of RHEL (Rocky claims bug-for-bug compatibility, Alma doesn't any more as they build in a different way) - these follow RHEL's point releases, and might be considered a poor and loose definition of forking, but rebuilding is a more accurate term.
All these distros are under the blanket term of "Enterprise Linux" because it's shaped around RHEL, even though most are free. Historically this worked well, as people learned Enterprise skills using Fedora and Centos Linux which turned into careers (including for me). Then Redhat went a bit mad and that all changed.
The only similarity to Debian/Ubuntu is that Ubuntu uses Debian as a base, and builds upon it. Like RHEL, it adds commercially licenced bits to its distro and rebuilds other parts into something unique, and like RHEL, Rocky, Alma and OEL do with Fedora, it feeds back improvements and development into Debian.
You're just a coward to admit you were wrong?
Says the person with a "Twitter verified badge" as profile pic LOL.
What has this to do with ANYTHING I wrote?