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Microsoft really wants Local accounts gone after it erases its guide on how to create them
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this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2024
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What's crazy is the cybersecurity teams at big corporations actually hate this because its putting half their security in Microsofts hands. (And their security has been abysmal for a hot minute or more)
Corporations hate this shit too because they want to be using their internal, domain-controlled users, not Microsoft accounts that pass a ton of trade secrets to Microsoft. Is Microsoft training its AI on your trade secrets? Who knows!
So Microsoft is literally killing core competencies not just for end-users, but for businesses, too.
This will convince a lot of businesses the switch to an all Linux internal domain to be worth it, imho.
What’s even crazier is that corporate customers don’t actually deal with this in any way! There’s no Microsoft account required on an Active Directory controlled PC.
Source: I am big corporate IT. Oh, and my personal AD deployment, outside of work
How are you accomplishing this? Provisioning the PCs to be part of the domain with a Powershell install script during automated setup? Because I was under the impression that this also had become a difficult task with 11. Because a Windows 11 machine doesn't know it's going to be part of the domain until it has been added to the domain. So, the only way I can see that working is like Powershell combined with WDS or something.
Source: Am small IT
EDIT: Also, the LTSC version of Windows 11 isn't coming until later in 2024. So I'm very curious how this works with 11 specifically.
Windows 11 Enterprise likely uses a different OOBE, I just tell it to join during setup. At work, everything is image-based and pre-configured so no standard OOBE.
Like most things at MS, those with the resources get everything they want while the little guy gets screwed.
*smacks forehead
Ah yes, I forgot about the existence of Entrprise edition. I've just never dealt with a business that paid for such a thing, I guess.
Yup, you can DL enterprise Win11 for free to, just gotta know how to grab it from MS.
Be a kind soul and share, please and thank you.
https://massgrave.dev/windows_11_links
Shit, I was just looking at massgrave the other day, didn't realize they had direct links. Thanks a bunch.
Haha, I work for one of Microsoft’s biggest customers and they still treat us like shit. Trust me they don’t do favors for anybody. They honestly do not care.
During setup press Shift + F10, type
OOBE\bypassnro, press enter and have fun creating local accounts.That has been err "fixed" some time ago. You cant open the command window during setup anymore
You can. I downloaded the (german language) setup iso from microsoft about 3 weeks ago.
I tried it a couple months ago on a laptop, didnt work. But it also already came with a W11 install, maybe thats why
Tried it just yesterday with the multi edition iso directly downloaded from the ms web page.
But as I am in Germany and my region is the EU/in Germany we get a different treatment.
Or it's just the OS the OEM delivers that is BS :p
Im from germany too, so i would guess its the latter
Windows 11 pro OOBE > get device online either via WiFi or wired network or bypass via commands > set up for school or work > sign in options > Domain Join. This asks you for local account name and password for a local administrator account and then drops you on the login screen.
LTSC 24H2 released sometime at the end of May? I installed it just recently in a VM..
As cool as it would be to see a big shift to Linux, I think you underestimate how deeply entrenched companies are with Microsoft, so unwilling to change, the lack of support for proprietary software, and probably most importantly, the lack of IT support to manage a Linux environment.
I've been full Arch since December in my personal stuff and have been a Sys Admin+ for 9+ years. I would not say I currently have the skills to effectively administer a Linux environment. I could get there, and there is a lot of overlapping knowledge, like the network stack didn't change, but I don't think I'm an outlier.
I recently switched from being the sole IT guy at a small/medium company so a place with about 2k employees. I have maybe met a couple of people within the company IT that I think could make the switch relatively well, and 70% of others that just don't got it.
Long term it would probably be fine, but that's not how companies work in most cases. I just don't think most places are willing to bite the bullet now to benefit later.
This. We tried to ban windows and literally the ELT blocked it because they personally didn’t want to learn MacOS despite the entire engineering, product, and medical team being on it. We now keep having to pay more for audits and for security solutions for the 15 people refusing to get off windows in mostly the finance part of the company
Depending on how:
that could be the cheaper path!
And so much more fun for IT regardless!
Are they (Microsoft) like suicidal or something? They are absolute madmen
I also think the same, I'm afraid we live in a tech-savvy bubble
I really wish it would, but the people that are the decision makers at businesses simply do not care what Microsoft does as long as it doesn't impact their bottom line. Yes it's incredibly user hostile. Yes it's an administrative nightmare for the IT people, but for the suits that write the checks? It's just the cost of doing business and they literally could not give a fuck if you paid them.
Maybe the execs don't care and the IT folks don't have the power to override them, but surely the legal department cares, right?
Its crazy their doing this while their CEO is being dragged on front of congress for their massive security breaches. Almost as if a monopoly is a bad.