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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 80 points 4 months ago (21 children)

Yeah, this I can get behind. Fuck those guys painting Stonehenge, but this? Yeah, go ahead.

[–] k110111@feddit.de 80 points 4 months ago (29 children)

Controversial opinion: whats the point of stonehenge if there is no humanity? Its not like it fosters some ecosystem or smth for other species, its a historical piece which holds sentimental value to us humans.

If we continue to use oil, we will for sure fuck up humanity. The act was controversial but the message needs to be looked at

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What's the point of destroying Stonehenge if humanity survives as a cascading result of stopping air travel? Defacing or destroying Stonehenge is not the lynch pin that solves or even moves the needle on climate change.

Worse, if it WORKS it means the next cause that is perhaps not existential is going to come and destroy something else that belongs to humanity. Weirdly, when nation states destroy heritage sites it's considered a type of war crime, but when it comes up for raising awareness for climate change fuck yeah everyone's in!

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

No one destroyed Stonehenge. They covered it in ~~wheat-based~~ cornstarch-based dye that washes off in the rain (something England gets a lot of). Calm your tits.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Last time it was cornstarch.

And the stones are covered in lichen that protect the stone

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[–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago
[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

What's the point of being alive if you're just gonna die one day?

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The guys doing Stonehenge at least tried. They used a powder they thought would just come off in the rain.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The Stone Henge people are saying that the water, lichen, and powder would have reacted badly. I do not have the education to know if that's true or not.

Strangley, 2 days ago they said they'll have to get the experts out to have a look at it, before they can tell.

What a very quick turnaround that, apparently, was......

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

They’re probably just a bunch of upset babies blowing everything out of proportion, of course they would go to the most unlikely and extreme outcome.

Meh.

Their job is to defend stonehenge at all costs. They wouldn't let people look at it if they could get away with it.

Of course they're going to say that the powder is reckless and could potentially upset the lichen or something.

It's hard to believe that this stunt could have any measurable impact in another 10 years or so.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nor did the protesters I would guess.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Neither do the media outlets, but that's the story their running with because the oil companies run ads on their networks.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 14 points 4 months ago

It hasn't rained yet.

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