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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well, you go tell that to the people who will lose their home because water levels are rising and some places on earth are becoming uninhabitable.

The crisis we're facing will make all these historical things seem extremely meaningless and all the time and money spent preserving them look extremely irresponsible.

I hope you'll remember this conversation when millions of people are dying trying to migrate to habitable land and when biodiversity reaches record lows and you're unable to feed yourself properly because of what we did to this planet, I'm sure at that point you'll tell yourself "Hey, at least resources were used to make sure the Mona Lisa stays good looking!"

I say that as a person that actually studied history in university.

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But how is that action going to stop the water from rising. I am too very much concerned with climate change but I don't see much point in those actions. They don't really bring anything to the table nor have any impact on the matter, apart from antagonizing people to the issue perhaps.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The point of their action is to show people's hypocrisy and to make people angry at the leaders of the world who will call it a scandal while they're doing nothing about the destruction of the world itself.

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 6 months ago

It looks like the goal will be more people getting pissed at the climate activists. Which will make it harder for those who are actually doing something more then just publicity stunts.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The last reply I will have here is that by messing with unrelated stuff, you ARE NOT guaranteed to solve the problem or even improve it. This Stonehenge business is totally extraneous. It has nothing to do with anything. If it were permanent, it's destruction for its own sake. What is more, it's an implicit green light for more and worse variations of this sort of vandalism or destruction going forward.

If we all make it through, YOU remember you thought it was worth it for the sake of a sound bite and 2 more days in the news for awareness instead of even trying to address the actual problem: airlines, shipping companies, cruise services, coal plants, etc etc etc.

Fucking up history for news hits is stupid, selfish, and ultimately not even particularly effective.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So with all of that, you never understood the point of doing acts like these.

Goodbye.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Nope! I think it's stupid and entitled and I'd rather distance myself from it and from you. So happy trails!