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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago (2 children)

On one hand, the CCP fucking sucks. On the other hand, the US alternatives to some of these banned / tariffed Chinese products also really suck - especially when it comes to bang for your buck. ugh.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 months ago (7 children)

On the other hand, with more money going to the US alternatives, there's more potential for a US company to step into that niche once it's open.

Not that it'll necessarily happen obviously, but it does make it a bit easier at least.

Also, I feel like I should add the disclaimer of "I'm not American." I wish I could show my country next to my username or something lol.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Problem is that, especially with the automakers, is that a lack of competition becomes an excuse to not invest in innovation. For example, General Motors is throwing billions into stock buy-backs, when they probably should be throwing that into EVs.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 7 points 5 months ago

Competition doesn’t really exist anymore. Instead, via regulatory capture, the big players simply change the rules to exclude competition.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that's the stuff that makes this difficult. I can talk all day about what "makes sense", but you throw one corporate executive into the mix and everything falls apart.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 5 months ago

That only works if you have competition. We don’t really have free markets. The consolidation is so extreme that auto makers for example really don’t care if consumers want a high value budget EV. Why should they? They can make you collectively buy something else when you need a car to get to work.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could show my country next to my username or something lol.

You could use a vanity username with a flag emoji in it, if you really wanted to.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if I'm able to change my username (and too lazy to check right now), but that's honestly not a bad plan.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

You can't change the username, but you can change the display name.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could register to your local Lemmy server, if there is one.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

sh.itjust.works is Canadian last I checked, though it isn't readily apparent.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And there are plenty of non-Canadians on it too, like me from America. It's a pretty big instance, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are more non-Canadians than Canadians.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Oh absolutely, I just meant to say that technically I am on a "local instance".

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought the technical Canadian based instance was Lemmy.ca even if yours is also Canadian lol

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I mean, there isn't really one singular instance for Canada lol.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah they aren't going to invest in their product. They don't have any reason to now. They're now the best product you can buy and they raised the price to reflect that.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I have yet to see that happen. If anything they'll just raise their prices because they no longer have any competitors.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s because, on one hand, the United States fucking suck. And on the other hand, if America produces anything well, you probably can’t afford it.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

Honestly, if there was american branded stuff I would prefer it to made in China stuff. I want to stimulate our own economy not China. For example: computer stuff, small microprocessor stuff like arduinos, circuitry components, rubiks cubes, audio stuff. All of those are dominantly Chinese, if I want to find good American stuff I can't. Someone needs to take the fucking risk and do it.