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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I live in Southern California in a parking impacted area. The amount of money they make off of "street sweeping" is insane. With this, you'd just tell your car to drive around until the street sweeping is done.

[–] TIN@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At this point why even have your own car? A pool of cars that can come and pick you up when you need it would be more efficient and allow the cost to be shared widely across a group

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That sounds suspiciously like public transport. Are you a communist?

[–] TIN@feddit.uk 8 points 5 months ago

Socialised private transport? Call it a car club and it's private enterprise and therefore okay, like Zipcar here in the UK!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yup, back when I had to go to an office I was paying $21 a day to park. 5 days a week.

With an autonomous car I could have it drop me off, drive back home, then pick me up based on my cell phone location on demand.

Yeah, I'd double my gas usage during the week, but I guarantee it would be less than $105.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd double my gas usage during the week

More likely power bill I'd think - I haven't heard of anyone working on an autonomous gas powered car or even hybrid. Also a few states won't even be allowing sales of gas cars in 11 years

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Double the wear n tear on the car, double the wear n tear on roads, double the traffic. yipeeeeee

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

True.

I just thought of a potential partial solution:
There could be companies that rent spaces in parking lots (with charging) specifically for automated cars, located just outside cities and commercial/industrial areas. Might even be useful to people in apartments or otherwise without a place to charge at home.

These would be closer to where the car needs to go later than all the way back home, and ideally on lower traffic routes.

[–] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It wouldn't have to go all the way home, just some safe free spot.

If you have family/friends it could be helping them out all day.

Or a robotaxi might suit better.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Set it up as Uber/Lyft and make money while you make money. :)

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Think of how well people treat public transport they all depend on...now that place is your car and people are alone and unsupervised. You're going to spend a large amount of time and money keeping the car from being a trashed mess.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you think a step further, it would double traffic.
I wonder how that'll work in an urban area.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It would double traffic, but only 1/2 of it would be user occupied.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but you'd still have twice as many cars on the road at any point in time, grinding everything to a standstill.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Autonomous cars really will be a fucking nightmare for traffic and I don't think people understand this. Traffic is one of the biggest reducers of car trips, it's why induced demand is a thing. People avoid trips if they don't want to deal with the traffic and people pay for expensive parking to avoid driving around looking for a cheap spot.

Autonomous cars would enable so many trips that would otherwise be avoided. Don't want to look for parking? Your car will do it. Don't want to sit in traffic for 30 mins to get to the grocery store? You can watch youtube while your car drives you. Don't want to take your kid to a friends house? The car will drive them.

EVs are not going to solve climate change and autonomous cars are not going to fix traffic. These problems are only solved by reducing car dependency and the faster people suck it up and accept that the faster we actually start working on solutions instead of tech bro nonsense that only solves the problem of how to concentrate even more wealth in the 0.1%.