Holocaust survivors like Edgar Kupfer-Koberwitz and Alex Hershaft have been trying to point it out but most people don't listen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_analogy_in_animal_rights

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think it is sorta well-known that the meat industry is doing evil practices, but we just sorta unfortunately roll with it, because it would require to majorly change our lifestyle, most likely not being able to use like 50-70% of family recipes, opting for noticeably pricier free range type of meats, or growing their own chickens (with today's property sizes, it's pretty challenging) etc.

That also includes me too, I was enjoying homemade chickens for a long time, but that have came to a halt. I will definitely try out a 1 month vegetarian challenge, but I don't it would be feasible for me for the rest of my life.

I hope others will be mightier and stronger than I am tho. You are doing noble things, dear vegans and vegetarians.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

Look I believe in you and remember goodness isn't a place you reach it's a path you walk. If you stray a little that's no reason to stop trying. Everyone has bad days when we don't behave to standards that we want to, the important thing is that we keep trying and do better next time.

Just follow your heart and don't give up :)

[–] iiGxC 3 points 5 months ago

I'm glad you'll try to stop eating animal products 👍

that said, any time there is systematic injustice, of course the oppressors will have to make "major lifestyle changes" to stop oppressing. That's the whole point, the oppression needs to end

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think holocaust survivors are the only ones who can make such comparison without everyone thinking it's a massive trivialization of the Holocaust

[–] iiGxC 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah you're probably right, but I think the point should should be able to stand on it's merits rather than who's saying it. But since you are right, here's what Alex Hershaft says about it, and I agree with him: "The main criticism is that we're making light of the sacrifice of the Holocaust, and of course, we're not. Far from it. We're honoring it by trying to draw some lessons for humanity"

Doing something terrible is bad (understatement in this case), but not learning from it is even worse.

I think it's also important to recognize the vast scale of animal agriculture: every year we kill more animals than the total number of humans that have ever existed. That's a mind boggling amount of animals experiencing massive injustice, and in my mind it makes most human-human injustices seem small. Even if you think that animals have 1% of the moral worth humans have it still outweighs human injustices (i read somebody do the math and iirc it holds up even for much smaller percentages. I wish I'd saved it)