Nah they'll blame the people he alienated. They did it for Hillary, they'll do it for Biden. They block anything remotely progressive and then wonder why progressives don't run to the polls for them.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I blame Hillary and the people who didn't vote for her. They still had a choice. And it was a dumbass choice they made.

Edit: If you don't vote for Biden, and Trump wins, you are culpable. That's literally how voting works.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, pretty sure it's everyone who doesn't find supporting genocide a big enough deal to seek another path for the election. Everyone supporting Biden now is responsible for propping up a bad candidate.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Fair enough, trump's guys aren't coming for me first, they are coming for the Gaza protesters, they are coming for abortion rights, LGBTQ+ rights, they are coming exactly for the rights of people refusing to vote for Biden...it's sort of ironic. You can read what you are enabling here: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Vote for my guy or I'll let Trump kill you"

This is a hostage situation.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If I had a vote, I'd be voting for the guy stopping trump from killing you, what else do you want me to do, if even you won't help yourselves in the simplest way possible?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump lost the popular vote the last time he won because America isn't a democracy. I voted against him twice, and the second time I voted against Trump to "stop fascism" all I got for my vote was a fucking genocide.

I want you to stop victim blaming. Our only choices are between polite Hitler and rude Hitler, you don't know enough about American politics to even understand how fucked we are.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

choices are between polite Hitler and rude Hitler[🙈 ok, everyone is hitler now, real mature] , you don’t know enough about American politics to even understand how fucked we are.

Oh, I understand more than I'd like to have to, the far right all over the world follows the US circus as their script, with complete liberal complacency.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, just remember that polite Hitler is doing a genocide, and the liberals around the world are right there beside him.

I'll give Biden one thing: his support for genocide has managed to sink the USs international reputation even further and delegitimize it's bogus "rules based international order" so badly that now even Mexico is joining the case against Israel in the ICJ. He's goose stepping the US right off a cliff along with his closest allies, he's practically the accelerationist choice, and the only alternative is just worse in all sorts of different and stupid ways.

Hopefully my death is quick and painless.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Polite hitler" doesn't encourage his groupies to go kill minorities with judicial impunity, shut up with that, it's like you have nothing to lose, but you have a lot left to lose. There is an objective difference, even if they were the same underneath, by setting an example of abhorrence and dogwhistles for their minions to follow in his country and abroad.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pro-Israel groupies are attacking student encampments and getting away with it.

The difference is that polite Hitler doesn't openly provoke those attacks. He just quietly enables and protects them.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago

Alright, good luck with that!

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

You are enabling, your making the unacceptable choice. No candidate has any more privilege than another. Your making up a narrative, your being dishonest and your goal is cause harm.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you don't donate to Biden's campaign and Trump wins, you are culpable. 🙃

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you say so.

But voting is literally how we decide who is in power, and it cost nothing. SCOTUS being hijacked by radicals is a direct result of the 2016 election. Everyone got together and decided (through the Electoral College) that Trump was the person to lead us. Everyone had a voice. Some chose not to use that.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Everyone got together and decided (through the Electoral College) that Trump was the person to lead us.

Gibberish. Everyone got together and decided that Clinton was the President, then the Electoral College overruled the democratic will of the majority and we got Trump anyway. Everyone has a voice. $ome voices matter more than others.