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President Joe Biden promised Black voters Wednesday that he would appoint progressives to the US Supreme Court if elected to a second term, suggesting he expects vacancies on the high court over the next four years.

“The next president, they’re going to be able to appoint a couple justices, and I’ll be damned — if in fact we’re able to change some of the justices when they retire and put in really progressive judges like we’ve always had, tell me that won’t change your life,” he said during a campaign rally in Philadelphia.

It was as explicit a warning as Biden could offer about the stakes of the upcoming election, and a clear reminder that some of the nine justices have entered their seventies.

Clarence Thomas is 75 and Samuel Alito is 74; both are conservative and appointed by Republican presidents. Sonia Sotomayor, a liberal who was nominated by President Barack Obama, turns 70 next month.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 213 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Biden's going to need everyone's help. Turn the Senate and the House super Blue. Even if you hate Biden because of Israeli support, vote for your Rep and Senator that can deal with this corruption. Add to the bench until the traitors Thomas and Alito become irrelevant. Revise the number of Senate and House seats.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 172 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Even if you hate Biden because of Israeli support,

Trump said that "he (Trump) fully support's Israel's Gaza genocide."

Anything Biden can do, Trump can (and would) do worse.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 48 points 5 months ago

Anything you can do, I can do better. I can do anything better than you.

Biden: I can support Israel’s killing of people in Gaza Trump: I will deport anyone that supports Palestine

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Having been around awhile, it's so weird that people are trying to make the case that a republican presidency could be a good thing for... just about any country in the middle east. Not saying that any party is going to spend much time on it, but it's just a weird stretch.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Because people are that fucking gullible.

It's irrelevant what's happened or is happening unless it comes from timtok/Facebook/lemmy/reddit post.

Not voting for Biden is exactly what they want to achieve and people who haven't read past titles are their target.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Nobody thinks Trump will be good for the Middle East. They are just trying to pressure Biden to actually change his policy. The idea is he'll change course if he sees it's not popular and could threaten his election. I say publically it'll make a difference because I don't want Biden to support a genocide and it's the only tool I have, but I doubt it will. I'm sure they're all like me and live in a blue state, which means we're useless for the electoral college. He needs to try to get purple states.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure they're all like me and live in a blue state

And I'm sure that 70% of them are shills paid by the Kremlin to take down Biden so they can get Trump elected again.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's even just the red/blue state issue. I haven't seen many in a prime voting demographic who care about this issue and the ones that do care are concerned in terms of wasting taxpayer money. The overlap between demographics who aren't statistically likely to vote anyways and people who are concerned about this issue is looking like it may be pretty damning.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The craziest thing to me are those further leftists threatening to abandon Biden and let Trump walk in.

I mean, they can complain and oppose the democrats all they want but they should also never ever forget that today’s GOP is just the latest incarnation of the leftist’s longtime fascist enemy. Keeping them from power is and always has been a top priority.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

Right? it's like saying "I wanted chicken, not beef, but all we have is chicken.... So I'm just gonna eat the pellets in the Rat Poison bottle instead!"

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago

I think that the majority of those are either accelerationists and/or state/political actors. Accelerationists soundly believe that the ends justify the means and think, despite a clear lack of solid evidence (and contrary evidence ex. Spain), that making things worse will force people to act to make things better. Mass repression and genocide of LGBTQ+ and POC are acceptable losses to reach Utopia... despite that literally never being the outcome at any point in recorded human history.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I hate that this sounds so dumb but we now live in a world where the truth sounds stupid

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[–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Even if you hate Biden because of Israeli support

i.e. don't be a single-issue voter.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

I'm a single issue voter and my single issue is proportional representation - I'll be voting for Biden but if a major party candidate did genuinely advocate for voting reform they'd probably have me.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I hate most of the Democratic party. I fear the Republican party. So yeah I'll be holding my nose and voting D.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That would be a decent protest. Have all the frustrated D voters wear a clothespin on their nose when they go to vote for the lesser evil.

Could actually get more people off the couch. Frustrated progressive voters would want to increase the ratio of "nose plug voters" to more effectively send their message to Biden while also helping kick out the Republicans.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I really like this idea! If enough people did it the media would absolutely pick up on it and amplify it.

Of course that does put people in red states in danger as they're announcing to everyone who can see them who they're voting for. :(

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Make it happen Samurai

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll be counting on you as a Canadian :)

It's easy to fall into a defeatist attitude with how fucked up everything is, but change starts with a belief that things can be changed.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Things can always be changed.

On the other hand, challenging worse hasn't gone well lately..

Spoken as a defeated Canadian who watched any hope of home ownership evaporate in the last 4 years.

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[–] sgtgig@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I just want the GOP to get absolutely pummeled for once so we can move the overton window back in the right direction. No I don't like the dems. Yes I will vote for them every time as they represent the closest to what I want.

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

Hijacking this comment thread to promote Ranked Choice Voting.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

And theres only one party that has outlawed RCV in certain areas. We aren't getting RCV without 2 things:

-Primary moderates and elect progressive Democrats at every level we can -A Democratic supermajority in Congress

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean by outlaw, but there are definitely democratic politicians who have shot down RCV on their ballots.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

S Dakota, Idaho, Montana, Tennessee, and Florida have all banned RCV. Bunch of other GOP controlled statehouses have proposed bills to do the same.

I'm sure there are individual legislators in the Democratic party that have shot down RCV but its opposition is nowhere near that of the GOP.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Got it. Yeah nobody in power wants RCV. Don’t be fooled by their inaction.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

RCV, Approval, and STAR my beloved

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

STAR, score, or approval! Not sure why people are obsessed with ranked, they must love curing ballots and being prevented from tallying districts individually?

100% would rather have ranked over FPTP, just to be clear. FPTP is toxic garbage.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Not sure why people are obsessed with ranked, they must love curing ballots and being prevented from tallying districts individually?

No need to be hostile to them. RCV is pedalled very hard, so naturally people who've heard about alternative voting systems will know it first.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is there good videos on STAR or score like there is ranked or approval? I first heard about alternative voting systems from that one stick figure YouTube guy. Not sure if he's made any other election based videos I've missed or if other people have made equally good ones about other voting systems.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if they'll be as entertaining as a pro YouTuber but there is a webpage with some explainer videos https://www.starvoting.org/videos

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because those still encourage strategic voting. With RCV, you can vote your conscious and be certain that it won't backfire and help your enemies.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather a voting system maximize voter satisfaction than minimize strategic voting. And I'd rather have people exhaust their ballots intentionally than accidentally.

What are STAR voters going to do, give everyone either all or no points? Their votes might not be counted in the final round, that's their choice.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Being forced to vote strategically is why so many voters are dissatisfied.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

I remain highly skeptical if the idea that many people would engage in strategic voting unless it's extremely obvious how to do it.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

People need to remember that Biden merely supports Israel, Trump would have nuked Palestine off the face of the Earth by now.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Biden should be scared of losing his job or he has no incentive to do what the people want.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You have a list of senators and house reps that will keep Biden and potentially Trump in check?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Congressional_Progressive_Caucus

In terms of which progressive candidates are running to beat incumbents that varies from state to state.

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