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[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The white supremacists usually have a large number of firearms and actively use the second amendment. When aplied at other protests (see earty capital hill occupations) a similar response happens with police being more stand offish and refusing to take ground until absolutely necessary.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The white supremacists usually have a large number of firearms and actively use the second amendment.

Seems like the perfect situation for a hyper-militarized police force to me.

(Not to say I think the government should deploy a proto-military force against protests, but like, if they're doing it anyway...)

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You’re right, but in most situations any casualties are unacceptable. The police will minimize their presence if they believe the people protesting have the conviction to use firearms against them. This is ehy the second amendment is so important, as defense for every other amendment against the corrupt and tyrannical.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not American, but from my perspective, the modern interpretation of your second amendment seems to cause way more oppression than it relieves in practice.

Also, if there is a group of people with the "conviction" to kill other people with lethal force, that would be exactly where police should be getting involved.

Getting a bit off-topic, but since you brought it up I'd be remiss not to respond.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Your thinking is sonewhat correct. A group with firearms and the heart to use them would be a threat if the first response is to shoot. In most cases however the protest attempts to remain peaceful. Also, in many cases, only a small percentage have that conviction, but that small amount scares the police enough to keep them back.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The real irony is that the 2nd amendment is ineffective against a tyrannical government, and things that are effective (making bombs, molotovs, weaponized consumer drones) are pretty explicitly banned.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

Do you have any bookmarks for evidence supporting this claim that you could share?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seems like the perfect situation for a hyper-militarized police force to me.

So you want more fascism?

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Not to say I think the government should deploy a proto-military force against protests, but like, if they're doing it anyway...

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 6 months ago

That's because many of them are off-duty cops. And why would you arrest your friends?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When aplied at other protests (see earty capital hill occupations)...

...some other random fascist murders them instead, and then gets pardoned by Governor Abbott for it.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

Self defense back at em.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

May have something to do with the fact that the police is about as fascist an institution as institutions get.