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Plumbing. I could live without almost every modern comfort but a flushable toilet
To expand a hair on this, modern waste disposal. So with plumbing comes sewage. Then the close child is refuse removal. We literally cannot live (healthily) without these things.
Side-bar, the folks that power waste removal are VASTLY under-paid.
Waste removal is usually a premo paid job, yeah they could be paid more, but still pretty cushy pay for most of them. Itβs not some minimum wage job and the entry barrier is usually high school education.
Depends on where you draw the line. Janitors for instance are usually paid a pittance. As are cleaning crews that vacuum the vast offices spaces around the country.
If you are talking about CDL drivers that collect trash cans then yeah, they tend to be paid well. Without all the pieces of the puzzle though the system breaks down.
Plumbers, as it turns out, are paid quite well since nobody wants to go into the trades currently.
Yeah thatβs pretty fair, itβs usually referred to people after point of disposal. Iβve never heard a custodian say they work in waste management for example.
Agreed, custodians (usually) wouldn't refer to themselves that way. Without them though, trash doesn't make it to the point of disposal. Which is a break in the chain. We could debate the finer points I'm sure, but it's about bed time for me and I have an early AM meeting with offshore.
So have a good one, and I do appreciate the discussion!
Totally. When mechanical systems in sewers and waste tanks break, somebody has to put on a diving suit, go in, and fix it. If any individual human in the world ever deserved $55 billion in compensation, it's those people.
I was going to say toilets/indoor plumbing. Necessary for survival? Maybe not. Best convenience ever invented? Probably.
I would rank plumbing pretty high to be sure, but without the steam engine to drive the water pumps, plumbing is limited to aqueducts, gravity sewers, and intermittent, low-volume supply from animal or wind-driven pumps.
Even today, the overwhelming majority of our energy passes through a steam phase at some point. Steam power is by far the most important discovery/invention of the modern world.
I was going to say HVAC. It's cold as all fuck here in the winter, and hotter than donkey balls baking in the sun during summer.
Woa WYA
The Mid-West? The center of a large continent gets really hot and really cold depending on the season