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I was going to be very mean to you, then I took a deep breath and realized that it wasn't worth it.
I would invite you to realize that for every 10 articles detailing how bad climate change is, there are maybe 1 of these articles. Tell me, what exactly are you doing by poking holes here? This organization has the potential to create far more lasting change than you being vegan ever will. What do you gain by pointing this out?
Your self-described "simple questions" are a textbook example of concern trolling, aimed not at gaining insight but at undermining efforts to address climate change. You position yourself as a reasonable skeptic—an advocate for the underrepresented, a cycling enthusiast concerned about the impracticalities of immediate fossil fuel cessation. Yet, your arguments selectively ignore the robust initiatives that organizations implement alongside the push to end fossil fuels, not to mention the extensive literature that outlines transitional strategies which are sensitive to socioeconomic disparities [IPCC, 2021].
Furthermore, your juxtaposition of environmental groups against Greenpeace creates a false dichotomy, one that oversimplifies the diverse tactics within the environmental movement. Both types of efforts—ending crimes by fossil fuel companies and phasing out fossil fuels—are critical and complementary, not oppositional [Greenpeace, 2023].
By framing necessary environmental actions as "strange" or "out of touch," you're not just questioning logistics; you're implying a deliberate disconnect by these organizations, thus painting them as elitist or naive. This isn't a critique; it's a strategic misrepresentation designed to discredit. If you were genuinely interested in resolution or progress, your dialogue would include recognition of ongoing efforts to develop sustainable, equitable alternatives and would perhaps offer constructive suggestions rather than thinly-veiled disparagement.
This approach does nothing to further the conversation or contribute to real solutions—it merely perpetuates a cycle of doubt and delay at a time when urgent action is most needed. Concern trolling undercuts serious discourse, exploiting legitimate anxieties for the sake of argument rather than resolution. If the goal is truly to enhance the effectiveness of climate action, then engagement should be aimed at fostering understanding and progress, not fomenting skepticism and strife.
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Wow, you're the worst sort of person. Instead of actually replying to their comment, or just leaving it be, you try to discount it as AI written and add nothing more. Also, there's good evidence it isn't AI written. I don't think I've ever seen AI use an em-dash, for example.
Do keep your mouth shut, and your fingers off the keyboard.