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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 152 points 8 months ago (6 children)

European here.

This seems to mainly only be an issue in the US. Socialism = Communism = Enemy

If at all anything, the opposite seems to be the case here. We're looking at the US as a "this is how bad it will get if we let go" example

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

In addition: government programs that help everyone = helping black people = no.

I think this is the fundamental reason why the US never went to public/universal anything, be it healthcare, education, whatever.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yep. We should have told the colonies of Georgia and Carolina to fuck off, and we'll get around to conquering them, after we kicked The King out of the other 11 colonies.

If one person had voted differently during The Continental Congress, we would have started abolishing slavery

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Fascinating history.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah y'all really don't want to end up like us. We're not the land of the free. The streets are most definitely not paved with gold. We're just a giant ponzi scheme.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Paved with gold? Lucky they're paved at all this time of year.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

No kidding. Their "fix" every year is to either fill all the potholes with asphalt, which the spring rains promptly loosen and get kicked out, or a thin "repaving" layer, which gets destroyed by the summer monsoons. I'm convinced Caltrans is a jobs program for people that can't get a job otherwise, because those guys can't seem to get anything done correctly.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 8 months ago

It's actually insane how many of our institutions are actually based on pyramid schemes. No wonder we all use it as the symbol for conspiracy because it is a huge portion of how anything runs in the US. Cover the costs by convincing more people to join in at a less beneficial or profitable step down the pyramid and hope someone else will be coming behind you for you to take from as well.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have a pothole literally 2 feet wide and at least 10 inches deep on my street that our city just can't find the funds to fix...

[–] Saurok@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Start a social media account for pics of the pothole. Keep tagging city officials in it. Call or email someone every time you're reminded that the pothole exists so they will be too. Make the city rue the day they gave Cave Johnson lem... Potholes.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

If they won't do it some helpful citizen might end up reading something like https://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Pothole

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

the opposite seems to be the case here

Cries in Lindner

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Europe uses the word socialism differently. It’s a difference in how the words are used and the time they are used. If we consider socialism shared responsibility, we have it America in many ways but we are hesitant to expand it. That’s because of our fear of large government power.

If we me socialism as the workers owning the means of production. Well no country does that. Normally it’s the government owning everything and the workers being abused such as the Soviet Union or Cuba. That’s the large governments Americans dislike.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, socialism isn't taxing the rich, it is or at least have always led to brutal dictatorships because the real one is just communism with extra steps.

Social-democracy on the other hand is wonder for the people (see Sweden etc) in real life.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I’m a conservative and read a wonderful article on why conservatives should be leading the charge to a social democracy like Sweden. It really changed my views on why we should be skippering certain endeavors. Just neither party here has really embraced the basic concept.

An example was national health care allowed people to be more entrepreneurial since that is a large risk to not have insurance here.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 3 points 8 months ago

That's not being conservative my man.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not being conservative my man.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then you don’t understand conservatism.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Well, French president and several of its ministers are saying that socialist left, or radical left, is extremist. So no, it's not an America problem. It's very much a Europe problem too.