Russia said since 2014 this was about NATO. Even before they protested strongly the NATO expansion. So how can it not be about NATO? You're either completely uninformed or lying.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You have the media literacy of a fly. Not even Russia supporters believe this is about NATO.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Uh… yes, we do? I mean not only about NATO, but definitely also about NATO. Even liberals like Jeffrey Sachs and radlibs like Noam Chomsky and undead ghouls like Henry Kissinger agree.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's an element but anyone saying the war was started because of NATO is clearly bullshitting. Now if you were to ask why the war is still going on despite both sides wanting peace, NATO is a pretty succinct and accurate explanation.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

and US fascists say banning trans people is about protecting children. only a fool believes the narrative of a fascist

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Well if you insist on not taking Russia seriously - then you must be very pleased with the result. Maybe you should call Putin a Hitler a few more times, that will solve everything :D