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Billionaires exist and this poor man can't get a goddamn health care worker.
At all levels of government we're (worldwide) making due with less while these fucking parasites grow.
Shit is going to get ugly in the next few decades...
Eat the rich, problem solves itself.
I'll argue that you only need to eat five rich. The first two will be shocking, the next two will be surprising that they were eaten despite all the security measures, the fifth being eaten is the reminder that the rich will be eaten.
You've taken care of like, 50% of the billionaires parasite issue with those 5, the remaining few will suddenly decide that social welfare programs are a good idea and donate so much that they are no longer billionaires.
Eat the rich and more rich pop up. It takes more than just "let's get rid of who we think the sole problem is and everything will turn out fine". The rich didn't just appear from a vacuum, they've accumulated power and wealth for centuries, if not millennia. "Eating the rich" would require vastly more fundamental changes than just grabbing goods from the nearest billionaire and tossing at "the poors".
Lol Eat the rich is a euphemism for killing them...not just taking their wealth.
No. Dine upon the flesh of the rich. Consume their nutrients so that you may absorb their power.
The problem is that value is derived from property rather than from work. You earn substantially more by owning a machine than by operating that machine, which rewards people who have money more than people who have skills.
Yes but their is not real answer to that. Even comunism where people own the means of production. Turns into a state where the leaders of that state make more money owning the machines then the workers on those machines.
Any system will always result in a cost to start the industry be it land in the past. Machines in the present or AI in the future. Those who have the resources to provide work for others will always have some form of power. And power will always lead to corruption.
All differing political stratagies do is change the process for gaining that power.
Humanity would probably have to eliminate psycho/sociopathic behavior. Something like 1% of humanity (much higher rate in billionaire and CEO populations, like 25%+).
Like you said, designing a system that prevents them from taking control without pretty draconian measures that are likely to catch many false positives (and still be evaded by skilled psycho/sociopaths) seems pretty difficult.
Maybe AI will be able to filter them out of the population, but that’s full of moral and ethical pitfalls too.
Except not really. Corruption is a problem but corruption happens in bourgeois democracy too, the overwhelmingly main source of wealth extraction that we can eliminate is surplus labor value extraction brought about by property relations. State socialism cuts away a massive problem while still retaining smaller ones.
I'd like to propose for maximum psychological impact they should be literally eaten using whatever gold plated dishware and diamond knives they've got laying around.
Why do we keep saying 'eat the rich'?
Just take their wealth and give it to those who need it. It is literally that simple.
Make them part of the working class. It's a fate worse than death in their eyes.
Thats... literally what eat the rich means
That's figuratively what eat the rich means.
Dammit I'm a FOOL i'm never going to have SEX now
Don't worry. Stick with me, I'll teach you all the pedantry you need to trick some idiot's pants off.
The problem is it's just a phrase. You can keep repeating it ad nauseam, but unless it comes with actual strategies to complete a goal... it's as meaningless a phrase as all the rhetoric that right-wingers throw around. And they're much better at it.
It's not like entire books have been written by people who ran successful revolutions overthrowing the capitalists or anything.
Bringing out the guillotine again.
Not everywhere...
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf
From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world's total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China%E2%80%99s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4
From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2019&locations=CN&start=2008
By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/world/asia/china-poverty-xi-jinping.html
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience
This is why the Chinese people are very supportive of their government. You would be too in this situation.
Exactly, no great mystery as to why Chinese government enjoys overwhelming public support.
Yep, literally no problems at all for Xinnie and company... Nope.
How many times are people going to face this claim?
China's pretty much popped their real estate bubble already, yet consumer spending is already recovering.
this time for sure 😂
Seriously. How much do you get paid for shilling China so hard? And where do I sign up?
"why are we talking about the communist party of china under an article about how the bourgeoisie continues to accumulate wealth to the detriment of the proletariat?"
This thread is about a dude in Ireland. It has nothing to do with China.
Say what you want about the west, but China isn’t what the world should be either.
happy seething and coping to you little buddy
Sick catch phrase bro. Did they teach you that one in shill school?
It's pretty hilarious how I posted sourced information that made you really mad, but since you had no actual counter point to make you just proceeded to expose yourself as a clown by regurgitating personal attacks you've memorized. A great way to tell us all that you're really mad, but too dumb to say anything intelligible on the subject. 😂
Oh you got me. I’m so mad and dumb.
Dude, you endlessly post about how awesome China is. I don’t have to love everything about the west to realize that that’s fucking weird.
Every time anyone calls you out on anything you use your “seethe and cope” catchphrase.
It’s either your job or you’re a nut. It’s not worth debating you.
The fact that you took the time to write this drivel is pretty hilarious. It's nice to know that my posts really get under the skin of people like you.
You either have zero self awareness or you’re a shill. I don’t really care. Either way you suck.
You keep on replying with your childish personal attacks on me here, so clearly you do care. Good of you to expose yourself as an angry loser who attacks random people on the internet. That's all you are.
I do care that someone might get roped in to your weird agenda and I feel it’s necessary to call you out as the shill you are.
If you had balanced arguments it would be different, but you’re very black and white in your support of China and hatred of the west. When challenged you go straight to “seethe and cope” catchphrase. You don’t have discussions in good faith so there’s no point in discussing with you and nothing you say should be taken at face value.
The only one who isn't having a discussion in good faith is the one who just follows me around and makes personal attacks because you're upset with the what I'm saying. Thanks for finally admitting that you really are bothered by what I say loser.
Following you around? Lol you really think you’re that interesting? You post about how great China is every where you go. I don’t need to follow you. Any time I see a pro-China post and/or the words “seethe and cope” it’s you. You’re boring and predictable. Get a life man.
I post about a lot of things, but all you appear to focus on is when I talk about China because seeing positive news about China gets under your skin. You keep telling me to get a life, but here you are making another vapid comment because you just can't help yourself. The fact that you don't even realize what a pathetic loser you are is really the cherry on top. Nobody in this thread agrees with you, and your drivel has been downvoted into oblivion here. Take a hint.
Ha! Just saying things doesn’t make them true. Might want to look at those numbers again.
If you’re that disconnected from reality that you can’t even see that you’re the one being downvoted, why should anyone take you seriously?
And really, hook me up with whoever’s paying you. I need some extra work and I’d be much more discreet with my shilling.
LMFAO thanks for letting us know that you don't even understand how federation works. Go look at what this thread looks like outside your loser instance https://lemmy.ml/comment/5801787
It's quite the irony that the guy who posts from an instance that blocks half of lemmyverse talks about people being disconnected from reality. 😂
I don’t get paid to sit on Lemmy all day shilling for China. I’m not too worried about how it all works or how many alt accounts you have downvoting me.
What you should be worried is your mental health buddy. The fact that you spent days harassing a stranger on the internet because you disagree with their politics shows that you're a deeply troubled individual. I really do feel sorry for you and sincerely hope that you get the help you clearly need.
I mean, you could just stop replying too. 🤷♂️
But I'm enjoying watching you lose your shit here, it's basically free entertainment.
Same.
I see your shill script insists you have the last word. I can do this forever.