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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not good. The beef we have is with Meta, not the people. Federating with Meta only allows it to suck Fedi's users data more effectively, while blanket banning everyone just sends a message that Fedi users are elitist dicks. It's exactly backwards.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The beef we have is with the Nazis, not the people giving the Nazis money and raising the Nazis' profile."

I do have a beef with people using services that are literally tearing society apart from within. I guarantee you that any Mastodon/Pixelfed/Lemmy/whatever instance I use that doesn't defederate any and all Meta connections will have at least one less user to worry about in their stats.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know that old chain email about comparing someone to Hitler to instantly win an argument, as an internet cheat code, that was just a joke, right? It doesn't really work that way.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying Meta are Nazis. I'm saying the position vis a vis Meta and Meta's enablers is very much the same as how you'd have to deal with Nazis and Nazi enablers: excision.

I'm sure a lot of people using Meta are very nice, decent, ordinary people. But they're still keeping an organization that is literally tearing society apart from within alive and thriving. There's no way to support them without also supporting Meta, and thus aiding and abetting Meta's abuse of society.

I do have a beef with them. A large one. Large enough that I excised them from my digital world almost a decade ago and have not looked back. If you're comfortable engaging with people who blithely give support to those who work hard to destroy the social order ... well, you be you, Boo. You be you.