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Those scenarios fall under the "as far as possible and practical" clause. Plants and fungi need insects to pollinate them, and microorganisms for nutrients. Veganism isn't a death-cult, so we have to eat something. Therefore, those insects and microorganisms are necessary.
Ditto for immune system and hand sanitizer. They are necessary parts of being human.
Another common one to ask about is animals killed in the process of farming, such as field mice that are caught in machinery. I also recognize those as necessary in the current system, but I do grow some of my own food as a small way to minimize those things, and I believe that if more people cared, we could eliminate that problem. But it's not something in my power, so I must classify it under the "as far as possible and practical" clause.
Another is animals that die as a result of roads. My answer to that one is /c/fuckcars
That's fair.
Since I answered your question, I'd like to ask you one: what's the difference between eating a pig and eating a dog?
There's a few ways to interpret that and answer. The why some animals and not others is more of a cultural divide. To my knowledge I've never consumed dog meat. I hear it taste...ok. I personally wouldn't seek it out, and that's an interesting question in of itself. Would I decline it in a survival situation, no. Would I decline if offered to me while in another country or something? Not sure.
The odd side effect of farmed animals is insurance of their survival as a species. Now, I'm not anti vegan. I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm omnivorous. Could we do better, ya. I've helped with the family farm before, growing a variety of produce. I've also hunted before. It would be nice to go back to a more primal way of eating. Having to work for the food beyond driving to a grocery store or having them delivered. Most of humanity has lost that connection to the land and life cycle.