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Anybody else here dislike how beehaw is becoming a bit of a hub for the israel-palestine talk? (beehaw.org)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by bermuda@beehaw.org to c/chat@beehaw.org
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I don't wanna dive super deep into this, but ever since the news broke it feels like this place has become a hub for shit-flinging from literally everybody about the topic. Sure, I've seen some nuanced opinions and some people attempting to have a normal human conversation, but I just dislike people using this particular instance as the "place to be" to continue this endless flame war. Isn't this counter to the goals of the instance? How many of us come here to argue like children about geopolitics?

Plus, a lot of the people I've seen pointlessly arguing about this have accounts from other instances... I've even seen one person post on their beehaw account, get flak for it, then switch to kbin for no reason.

And at the risk of sounding too conspiratorial, something definitely seems off about a lot of these comments. Maybe it's how a lot just seem to be infodumping. I dunno.

It's only been a few days. Maybe it'll simmer down. But I don't like the direction this is going.

Edit: I'm not recommending we censor political discussion, however in this particular instance I would say it's wise to take a step back and think about what we say to each other

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[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I think the response has been very level headed conversation actually. There's been a lot of focus on Israel simply because of the absolute support they initially got. But I think the discussions have been productive.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree, most of the longer discussions I saw were mostly two people talking past each other.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think most longer discussions are like that regardless. But most conversations that I have seen have been short and informative. Especially now that people have been able to process a bit.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe we're just seeing different posts? There's one on c/world news right now where the OP is arguing with everybody who disagrees in pretty bad faith. Am I just seeing that because I'm on Jerboa? It's still posted on beehaw from what I can tell

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Which post? There's the evacuation one on c/news on Beehaw which got a bit heated. It has a couple of bad faith comments by the OP. But even then most of the discussion seems to be good faith, even when they're strongly disagreeing.

I don't see a world news community on Beehaw. Just news and USnews. Do you mind sharing the post or the community+server?

(Also for the record, I use Connect. But I don't know if it makes a difference.)

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I definitely recommend looking into OP's position on dead civilians, from their past comment history.

I don't want to take a side in this but I just find those comments thoroughly reprehensible.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The OP clearly crossed from "acceptable" civilian casualties to actively rooting for civilian casualties. In this case the mods would be justified blocking them.

But I'm also happy to see that overall they're not voted up.

[–] admin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. Yeah, World News is just News. So I was a bit confused. I assume they were talking about the evacuation post. It looks like the OP is making a lot of inflammatory comments there and in other posts. But most of them aren't voted on and not very visible.

I think the issue might be wanting the mods to weed out some of these types. At one point they're even warmongering a bit. But the rest of the conversation seems overall fine.

[–] admin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

We're keeping an eye on it.

[–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t see a world news community on Beehaw. Just news and USnews.

I think News was designated a world news community around the time the mods created the USnews.