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[–] punkisundead 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well obviously one was done by fascists and the other was done by communists.

Comparing two really different ideologies with just one aspect / event and saying they are essentially the same is not really the way to go. Coming from a country that has a history with liberal capitalism, state socialism/communism and fascism I feel like its really unsettling how you are throwing together the different ideologies.

Communism and Fascism are really different in as many aspect as they are similar. Especially because fascism and communism both really vary from the specific context they got to power. Like fascism in austria was different from fascism in germany or communism in china is different than it was in poland.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I you want to talk about how they got to power, well, fascists usually got there by votes, and communists by revolution. It's rare--but not unheard of--for a communist gov't to be voted into power.

But the end results end up being remarkable similar; they're both dictatorial, and both use state-sponsored violence to suppress or eliminate competing political ideology. (I want to be clear that I'm not talking about Marxism specifically; Marx was opposed to the existence of a state. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, et al. were authoritarian.) As long as you are part of the political in group, you're golden. Once you're out, you're an enemy of the state.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stalin wasn't a communist. He had the Bolsheviks assassinated. He was an imperialist.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

He got into power through the Bolsheviks however. A wolf in sheep's clothing. There was similar with the Nazis in Germany, but I see that more as left wing infighting making them blind to a far right threat.