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A.I.’s un-learning problem: Researchers say it’s virtually impossible to make an A.I. model ‘forget’ the things it learns from private user data (finance.yahoo.com)

submitted 1 year ago by assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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I'm rather curious to see how the EU's privacy laws are going to handle this.

(Original article is from Fortune, but Yahoo Finance doesn't have a paywall)

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[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Indeed they can, but training a model can take a month or more and cost many millions of dollars, so it's not trivial.

[–] ComfortablyGlum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the REAL issue is how much it costs to remove the info vs how much value the info has? Such as the average Joe's social security number vs a movie star's social security number vs the president's social security number.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I might change 'value the info has' to 'liability it creates', but I think you're right about the cost/benefit situation. Since our laws have not kept up with technology, there are a lot of unanswered questions making it hard to analyze.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What makes up the cost? Buying CPU cycles and storage? Just curious.

[–] garyyo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Outside of the costs of hardware, its just power. Running these sorts of computations is getting more efficient, but the sheer amount of computation means that its gonna take a lot of electricity to run.

[–] nuke@yah.lol 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The GPU cluster. The H100 GPUs are about $40,000 each and you need many.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting. Thanks.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

GPU cycles probably, but yeah. That makes up the bulk of the cost. The price of data is assuredly increasing as well, but that's slightly beside the issue.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

All of it. At that scale, you're paying for data access, network communication, layers of storage... Basically every single step of computation becomes a meaningful cost