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online anti cheats are the worst thing (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by Ineocla@lemmy.ml to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.ml

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Recently, i had to move from nixos to windows against my will simpy because of anti cheats. While i dont game that much, the few games i enjoy playing are all online with some kind of anti cheat. I used to dual boot but i was tired of having to wait for my slow hdd to load windows (i only have one ssd). I literally used linux for everything else but because of anti cheats i am forced to move to windows. I managed to make it a little better by using wsl2 and removing bloatware but it will never be the same as linux

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think what you meant to write is "online games with anticheat are the worst thing".

Because "online anticheat" is becoming a thing wherein the anticheat system is run on a remote server and not your local system. Not only does it not need to install malware on your local system, but it does a better job at catching cheaters.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, and it's a fantastic option. AFAIK, that's what Valve uses for CS:GO, and while it's not perfect, it isn't intrusive and largely does its job.

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not even what I was referring to. I'm talking about full anticheat server-side. Waldo Vision

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Interesting. Most of what I've seen operates on inputs, like whether aiming is too accurate or the player moves unrealistically fast.

But I'm in favor of anything server-side, we really shouldn't be trying to make the clien more trustworthy.

[–] calzie@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could be wrong but I believe most games (e.g: Fairfight in all EA games) do have a server-side anti-cheats, just not very effective ones because they like for EAC/BE to do most of the work.

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you're not wrong, but like you said they don't really do much. But what I'm talking about is fully functional server-side anticheat. Check this out Waldo Vision. I skipped past the intro, cause that had WAN Show clips, which haven't aged well...