this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2024
1083 points (98.8% liked)

News

23608 readers
4165 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Excerpt:

Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.

“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.

After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”

“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it was a setup and they chose their guy in advance, then there was time to bring in pre-screened cops. In fact, there was time to interview a small time cop, brief him on the promise of a bright career ahead of him if he keeps this one little thing on the down low, and make sure he was the closet beat cop when their chosen mark went out.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you seen the incompetence of our government? Not buying that they could pull that off.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well they haven't pulled it off yet. Their story is already full of holes. The feds expect us to believe he perfectly planned the murder with a 3D printed disposable gun, and was then caught two states away with that same gun? It doesn't make any sense.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Most of the holes we see are us expecting him to make smart moves.

We know he was at the hostel

We know he was at the bus station

You know he had a fake New Jersey ID because he used that to check in at the hostel.

Motive, If it exists, should come out pretty clearly in discovery. If that actually was his journal he was carrying with him that he wrote in , the points in there will be easy to prove or disprove. From the sound of the journal he was planning on turning himself in or getting caught.

I'll fully admit what we saw in the video and the actions right after seem to be very coherent compared to what were hearing now. But the discrepancies aren't so big they can't be explained if he was just kind of winging it.

The differences in the coat in the backpack could be the differences between a daytime camera and a camera in night mode. In a night shot things reflect ir light differently, that one shot definitely looks like it doesn't have pockets in the front. But we are looking at potato cam footage.

They'll also have proper records of him coming in with that fake ID.

I guess I'm just saying the difference is between them planting evidence and* him coming in with the intent to pull it off and likely get caught should be stark enough to come out in Discovery if he even has a half decent lawyer. Also what the f*** was up with that Joe pesci arringement I attorney

Human actions rarely make sense. Let's be honest. A completely rational person doesn't murder a rich perdon in broad daylight in the middle of a major city and expect to get away with it. A truly smart person would make it look like an accident. And really, to through his lufe away just to extinguish another isn't rational. He had no way of knowing people would see him as a hero. So he couldn't have had any ration belief that it would change anything. And it still may not.
Thus to say thier story is full of holes because a rational person wouldn't do X, is in itself, full of holes. He may not be what we wish he was, but the message is still clear. People are pissed off, and want change. Let's no get distracted with conspiracy theories. It only reduces the chances of any meaningful change, and those are already low enough... but worth trying for.