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If this happened once instead of constantly
You talk about women right ? Because as a man I would love that it would happen all the time to me
you're assuming that because you don't have to live with the reality.
add in the constant awareness that most rapists occur by men against women and most men are stronger than women.
you wouldn't like theae solicitations or straight up molestation and assaults if you were constantly in danger of being raped and being reminded that men found you attractive or available.
Been raped twice by two different women, I'd still be fine with it. If I let my experiences with women (that + 3 serious relationships ended in them cheating) cloud my judgement of the entire gender I'd be an "incel," so I don't, I give each individual a fair shake because my past trauma isn't their fault.
all of that rings untrue, and if it is true; it's clear that you are not understanding or empathizing with any perspective other than your own, you're only looking at it through your own understanding of the world, which by what you've written is extremely limited.
of course the situation feels different to you from your perspective, you are living in a different situation in different circumstances.
in your imagination land, sexual assault is a compliment.
If you talk to women, they view sexual assault as an assault.
they view sexual harassment as offensive and unwelcome, not as your imaginary compliment.
get out of your own head, this is not about you.
What are you talking about, I said that I as a man would love to be cat called not that I would love that as a woman . I never receive compliment and I can assure you that I would love to be cat called.I don't say that what you said is false (it s not), just that its not what I was talking about.
"What are you talking about..."
you are not talking about getting catcalled, you are saying that if you got complimented, you would like it.
that is not what is happening to womenn getting catcalled; they are not receiving compliments, they are being harassed.
If you were catcalled multiple times a day every day you wouldn't find it as fun, since these are not components so much as an attempt to engage with you personally, which is time-consuming and doesn't benefit you, it only benefits the harasser, especially with the accompanying implication of rape or violence with each incident of harassment throughout the day.
I was talking about being cat called and I already got your point on how its horrible for woman to be always cat called because of the intimidation and threat that it implie.
...then you insisted that you would enjoy being catcalled, so I wanted to clarify that you wouldn't enjoy being catcalled; you would enjoy a different situation in which you are occasionally complimented in good faith without the threat of violence, which is a completely different situation than what women go through everyday being catcalled.
you wouldn't enjoy being catcalled.
you would enjoy receiving occasional good-faith compliments without the lurking threat of violence.
Constantly, really?
They dix not talk about the dame thing than you , they dont talk about the dame situation than the même. That s why its confusing
constantly, really:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvq9krecA8g
and men don't start cat calling women after they reach what is thought of as an "appropriate" age to harass someone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4DCYYs4ECE
The single most important benefit of getting to be an old woman is I don't have to deal with this shit anymore.
Do you have any actual studies on this rather than YouTube videos? You know, the ones that show you raw unobscured data? Because I can take a camera to the main plaza, ask 100 women if they ever had insert experience till 3 out of a 100 say yes, interview them, cut it together, and make it seem like its happening to every single one of them. Data obscuration is the easiest way to manipulate outcomes of studies.
yep, this case study records about 10 cat calls per hour:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9900418/
also, what do you have against video evidence?
they studied the YouTube comments, most of which dismissed or defended the harassment, as you are doing.
there are many studies and videos about common, everyday open harassment and assault against women.
you should try talking to some of the women in your life.
ask them what it's like for men to make solicitations end comments about their appearance in public and how often it happens.
then ask how old they were when they first harassed or molested.
your assumptions and implications from your comment show that you have no experience here; these talks will be enlightening for you.