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Watch: Secret footage shows COP29's chief Elnur Soltanov discussing gas and oil deals

Oil and gas accounts for about half of Azerbaijan's total economy and more than 90% of its exports, according to US figures.

this is the second year in a row the BBC has revealed alleged wrongdoing by the host government.

These events are supposed to be about reducing the world's use of fossil fuels – the main driver of climate change – not selling more.

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[–] frunch@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why bother doing it behind closed doors at this point? There aren't penalties for anything if you aren't a lousy fucking poor

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This. Until people unionize and organize, the billionaires will continue to do whatever they want.

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] leftytighty 13 points 1 month ago

Organized protest actions are revolutionary. A general strike would do more than your last 10 votes. Violence should not be the first escalation

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's for the young. I would be less than useless to that cause. But organize a group of people to take care of each other? That I can do

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That might just be what the future looks like, perhaps some sort of tribalism will return. People pooling resources to counter all the rising expenses and diminishing availability of worthwhile goods

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I kinda hope that's what it looks like TBH. I had hoped to build that kind of thing in the relative safety of a Democratic presidency, but it's still possible (and might even grow faster) under a theocratic, authoritarian regime.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't that often the way, strangely enough? I've seen people actually at their best during the worst of situations... I never saw as much unity around here since we got nailed by Superstore Sandy back in 2012. It's a shame that's what it seems to take to get people to see each other as fellow humans, but it's proof that there's more humanity than I've suspected/expected from people.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

Same. Got hit with a derecho in 2008, and it didn't matter what you believed—people came out and helped clear trees, shared their food, offered a hot shower if their heater worked. That time sucked, but I still have a fond feeling from it because of how everyone reacted.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Make the rich afraid again.

[–] MrMakabar 5 points 1 month ago

Same reason BP promoted the carbon footprint. They want COP to look like proper climate action, so less people use their energy to do something better. COP looking like an oil sells event, is awful PR for them.