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Anarchism and Social Ecology

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Anarchism

Anarchism is a social and political theory and practice that works for a free society without domination and hierarchy.

Social Ecology

Social Ecology, developed from green anarchism, is the idea that our ecological problems have their ultimate roots in our social problems. This is because the domination of nature and our ecology by humanity has its ultimate roots in the domination humanity by humans. Therefore, the solutions to our ecological problems are found by addressing our social and ecological problems simultaneously.

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Poetry and imagination must be integrated with science and technology, for we have evolved beyond an innocence that can be nourished exclusively by myths and dreams.

~ Murray Bookchin, The Ecology of Freedom

People want to treat ‘we’ll figure it out by working to get there’ as some sort of rhetorical evasion instead of being a fundamental expression of trust in the power of conscious collective effort.

~Anonymous, but quoted by Mariame Kaba, We Do This 'Til We Free Us

The end justifies the means. But what if there never is an end? All we have is means.

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~Murray Bookchin, "A Politics for the Twenty-First Century"

There can be no separation of the revolutionary process from the revolutionary goal. A society based on self-administration must be achieved by means of self-administration.

~Murray Bookchin, Post Scarcity Anarchism

In modern times humans have become a wolf not only to humans, but to all nature.

~Abdullah Öcalan

The ecological question is fundamentally solved as the system is repressed and a socialist social system develops. That does not mean you cannot do something for the environment right away. On the contrary, it is necessary to combine the fight for the environment with the struggle for a general social revolution...

~Abdullah Öcalan

Social ecology advances a message that calls not only for a society free of hierarchy and hierarchical sensibilities, but for an ethics that places humanity in the natural world as an agent for rendering evolution social and natural fully self-conscious.

~ Murray Bookchin

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[–] AmazingWizard@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

See, if you had actually done something, you would have just answered that. You did nothing, did you?

I know people who were out door knocking in blue wall states in deeply red counties, as marginalized people, who have more empathy and understanding, and a grounded realistic view of why the Harris campaign failed you and us, than you seem to be expressing here.

If all you did was show up to vote, eat your pride. Now is the time for you to ACTUALLY go out and do something instead of pissing and shitting in the comment section of fucking lemmy.world of all places.

Grow the fuck up.

[–] UniversalMonk 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Preach it, brother!

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Good for those people. Did it change anything? Do you think more people doing it would have? How many more people would it take? Can you find them and convince them to show up? I have no interest in naive lectures on idealism. We tried that already and it failed spectacularly.

Look man, I get that you're having a hard time letting go of the idea that you're a peacemaker out there making a difference but if this whole situation hasn't caused you to revaluate things then I don't know what to tell you. Good luck with the delusions I guess. I'd rather live in an uncomfortable reality than hide away in fantasy land. You say grow up but I say that's exactly what I'm doing by taking an honest look at the world around me. What you're talking about sounds like storybook bullshit to me.

[–] AmazingWizard@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol you still won't admit that you did nothing. Do you know who organizes the door knockers? THE DEMOCRATS. They were door knocking FOR THE DEMS. You go talk to Kamala fucking Harris and ask her why more people were not doing it, you go ask HER why it didn't change anything, you talk to the Democrats and ask them why they failed you. You couldn't identify Idealism if it was stapled to your own forehead.

What do you even think I'm talking about here, hmm? Door Knockers are the antithesis of idealism. They are agents in the material world, engaging with people directly, hearing their positions and making real attempts to offer them answers. They're engaging with the non-voter class and republicans in an attempt to create material change within the electorate. Republicans also door knock, for the same reason. What's idealism is YOU thinking that somehow people should have just "Done the right thing" and showed up and voted for someone who offered nothing to them. Republicans voted for Trump because he had clear and understandable messaging, Harris had absolutely awful messaging. If you're a Door Knocker and all you have to work with is garbage, then the only ones to blame are the ones who gave them the garbage. The Democrats.

If you want to "fight fascism" every two years by showing up to vote, you'll be living under fascism faster than you think. Get out, touch some grass, talk to your neighbors, stop leaving your political life in the hands of people who have no interest in offering you anything, that's called "Growing the fuck up".

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

The difference between us is that you're assuming this outcome is because people weren't educated enough. I think they knew exactly what they were getting and asked for it anyway. All your shit talking is just your way of rationalizing the fact that the American public doesn't care about the same things you do. You think if we try hard enough that will change. It won't.

That's the last time I'm responding to you because you clearly don't know how to get out of your bubble. Stay in there until it pops for all I care.