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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians. The anti-Israel propaganda is just being used to drive the Muslim and progressive vote away from Dems. I think it’s turning out to be successful.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians.

I don't want the US government selling weapons to Russia to use against Ukrainians. I'm glad we aren't.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not yet, anyway. That's absolutely Trump's plan though. You want to help prevent that?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (19 children)

You want to quit calling me a trumper every time I speak out against genocide?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 months ago

Why can’t they? You accuse everyone you talk to of supporting genocide. Quit playing the victim of the exact same shit you do to everyone here.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And other lies you tell yourself.

I’ve never met a Palestinian supporter that isn’t also a Ukrainian supporter.

[–] madkins@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The entirety of lemmy.ml would like a word.

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I signed up to Lemmy without knowing much about instances, can't remember exactly why I picked lemmy.ml but it wasn't politics.

Is this really a generalisation people have? Should I move...?

[–] Quill7513 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

your admins also run lemmygrad. only you can decide if you should leave. personally, i like beehaw, slrpnk, dbzero, and blahaj. one important aspect to understand about the fediverse is that your instance is part of the identity you present to others

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

We live next to corn and soybeans.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It has nothing to do with your identity. They all have different rules and different communities. Its more like which hotel chain you prefer to stay at. Its a preference for sure, but one that doesnt matter much.

People who judge based on instance are only outing themselves anyways. Churlish.

[–] Quill7513 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

it does say something though about what style of moderation you prefer and who you associate yourself with. that's why it's literally part of the identity you present. it's embedded in your username. it's like your fediverse last name.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I've been on Lemmy for a year and only now I'm learning about instances. I've read a few threads about lemmy.ml being "tankies" and that hexbear is the worst, but haven't had any negative interactions with either. Shit, I don't know the majority of the time which instance I'm interacting with.

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[–] acid_falcon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Hey I've been looking for someone to ask, and you seem to know, is Lemmy.world cool?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

It's the most 'mainstream', for better and for worse.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

Probably best to use a smaller instance instead of .world. The less centralized Lemmy is, the better.

[–] Quill7513 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

theyve been concerning me lately

[–] acid_falcon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ugh. Yeah I've heard that "it isn't the best. It was the easiest to sign up for when the reddit exodus happened. I'm anti Israel and pro Ukraine and I'm always busy with real life/my own hobbies. I just don't have the bandwidth for finding the best instance. C

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I would put some effort into switching when you have a weekend. There isn't necessarily a best, just best for you. The ones quill mentioned up the thread are all solid though. I'm a dbzero guy myself but blahaj is cool and I haven't had issues with people from any of the other servers he's mentioned. .ml, .hexbear, .grad, and .vegan whatever that instance is are all no go in my book for various reasons.

[–] Quill7513 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

exactly! every instance represents an imperfect vision of their admins perfect instance. the trick is finding or founding the instance that most closely reflects what you want to see and experience on the fediverse

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

You don't have to switch, its like email, you can just have multiple. The phone apps for lemmy have an account switch feature so you can use more than one. The sign ups aren't much more difficult than worlds in most cases. Some require a manual approval which can take some time.

Personally I left world because of how antagonistic they are towards vegans. I don't mind a good debate but its crazy to me that the majority opinion there is that veganism is about as taboo as child rape.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No. Unless you're a power-tripping mod or admin, they seem to be cool with that. Not so much toward average users. I've seen no drama here on lemm.ee.

[–] madkins@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Personally, I'm fine with seeing differing opinions. On the political side, they get a bit obsessed with dunking and all these in-group memes for my tastes.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 2 months ago

Ah, see I realized they were either all bad faith actors, bots, or idiots ages ago and don't federate with them.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (5 children)

There are 20 Israel stories to every 1 Ukraine story on Lemmy.

Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this platform is being heavily astroturfed, and so are many other "liberal" platforms. It's actually way worse here than on Reddit.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's actually way worse here than on Reddit.

Because after r/ChapoTraphouse was kicked out from Reddit for inciting violence, the tankies moved to create lemmy.ml.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Of course there are, and I probably post 3 of the 20.

Other than the alt-right, you’re not going to find any support for Russia in the West.

Why would we need to raise awareness and keep posting about Ukraine to the same level as Palestine?

[–] socsa@piefed.social 19 points 2 months ago

Bruh I literally got banned from .ml twice just for mentioning the fact that Russia shot down a civilian airliner in Ukraine. You are completely delusional if you don't see that a significant portion of these idiots are up Putin's ass.

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[–] Quill7513 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

we're also numb to what's happening in ukraine. people got tired around when it hit the one year mark

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By “people” I assume you don’t mean Ukrainians.

[–] Quill7513 1 points 2 months ago

i mean westerners. it's been very frustrating because it means i have to find out what's going on by seeking firsthand perspectives because journalistic fervor is guided by what will sell ads. my bet is sometime around october seventh people start tuning out again because the novelty will have worn off. i'd love to be wrong, but every single outrage decays as we mistake novelty for news

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago

I haven't met any in real life as far as I'm aware, but I've seen plenty on here.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think they're talking about the people on TV talking about it, not the protestors themselves.