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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Yeah, a lot of stupid culture war crap is now tied up into the car your own.

If people actually prioritized performance, handling, visability, cost to drive, and cabin features, then a LOT of people would probably be better off with a sedan.

If you don’t need the space, you can get so much more bang for your buck with a smaller car. The $10k more you spend on the larger form factor could go toward a nicer power train and cabin luxury features.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most other countries I've been to, all the trades use these, and seem to have no problem getting projects done.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Japanese Kei trucks are pretty rad, but they don’t fly with US highway safety regulations. They’re meant for slower roads / slower collisions speeds.

That said, most American trucks do not need to be remotely as big as they are.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let's ignore the lack of crush zones, air bags, seat belts, re-enforced door panels and cabin pillars, for a moment. (The lack of any safety features is why they are mostly illegal to operate on roads in the US.)

How far do you think that roller skate could pull my empty 24,000lbs tandem axle tilt bed trailer? Or even my 4000lbs trailer? On a highway at highway speeds.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s almost like that it isn’t the intended purpose of these vehicles.. you don’t need 19ft long 10ft tall super duty ford f-250s and up to pull a 4klb trailer though… a 70s f150 half that size could do it just fine and modern engines in that size vehicle would be even better

Kei trucks and vans are the perfect vehicles for most jobs and most tradesman not hauling loads meant for real trucks not light truck frames

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Most tradesmen DON'T use a 250 Super Duty unless they really need one. They prefer the standard 1/2 ton base models because they are cheaper and "good enough".

Kei trucks, while they do have their place and uses in some cities, are NOT the "perfect vehicles" for most tradesmen in many parts of the world. They do not carry enough items and tools for most tradesmen to make all the repair calls they may need to do in one day. They often need to drive well over 100 miles a day to get to all the appointments they can have. And the design of the those little trucks are patently unsafe at highway speeds.

Vans are sometimes popular, but they are just weird looking trucks. And they can be difficult to access tools and items from. Requiring you to either unload a bunch of stuff to get at something or you need to crawl over everything.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Fair point. Though if they weren't needing to go up against oversized trucks, it wouldn't be as much of an issue.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not to mention longer term cost of maintenance and insurance.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"15 minutes could save you ~~15% or more~~ 100% on car insurance"

(by leaving the scene of the accident as rapidly as possible. 'Geico'? No no, 'Guy, Go'.)

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or a hatchback or a station wagon...

Oops, nobody makes station wagons anymore. We stopped making them because, uh, people stopped buying them. Yeah, that's the ticket. People stopped buying them because we stopped making them.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The Americans don’t, but Volvo, Benz, Audi still do.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Ya know it probably says something that the concept of "cabin luxury features" made we want to burn the inside of a car. Ill stick to my lack of cupholders in my 30 year old car thanks, but seriously when I see the interior of modern cars they make me want to rip into them with wire cutters. Bunch of useless crap like lane assist, cruise control, and addaptive road assist, powered stearing is the only luxury I need.

Fun fact I am only 24, I just am tech literate in the way that causes me to think 90% of technology is worthless crap that shouldve never been created and needs to be recycled.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cruise control is hardly luxury, most cars have had it for a while

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I love cruise control. Get on the highway, set it and go. Ideally find someone driving the same direction and speed, and follow along behing them. No more stressing that I'm going to get a speeding ticket.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Im mostly joking that most of the cars ive owned havent had cruise control. Gotta love old base model jeeps.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. I’m mostly saying that you could probably take that cash and upgrade to a nicer car that isn’t covered in creaking injection molded plastic inside, or something with nicer seats and upholstery.

AKA decent materials, and not the cheap garbage you get on a base model American SUV.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I get that its just the concept disgusts me, but then again my Scottish ancestors would rise from the dead and kill me for wasting money on such superfluous things. Profligacy is quite literally killing the planet, ya aint gonna catch me wasting money on stupid pointless shit too often. My grandmother though aint bound by such ancestral limits and it annoys me.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm with you. I want my car to have three pedals, a steering wheel, and a stick. Air conditioning, heat, and one cigarette lighter socket. That's it.

[–] ensoniqthehedgehog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm almost 40 and a lot of my cars in my teens and 20s were from the '80s and '90s. Almost everything I've owned has had at least a rudimentary cruise control although there are some ('80s Bronco II, '95 Miata, early '90s 240sx, 99 Impreza Wagon) where it was broken or I just never used it.

All that said, I LOVE the radar controlled cruise control on my current vehicle. I've used it for at least 20,000 miles of driving at this point. Interstate, highway, city, you name it... Pretty much any time I want to maintain a steady speed over 28 and there's not a lot of stop and go traffic. I hate thinking about life without it now (and I hate using standard cruise control without radar)!