364
'Don't listen to Trump': Florida conservatives turn on ex-president over new comments
(www.rawstory.com)
this post was submitted on 31 Aug 2024
364 points (97.6% liked)
politics
19090 readers
6312 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
This sounds wrong to me. People smoking pot on the sofa eating munchies and watching tv are not out committing crimes.
Hmm. Hasn't been a disaster where I am (California). I think the state makes a lot of money taxing it. But why don't we ask the internet?
https://www.mpp.org/issues/legalization/marijuana-legalization-is-not-linked-with-increased-crime-rates/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047235220302361
Conservatives are too stupid to actually verify anything their idiot "news" media tells them. They just know that they hate young people and people of color for loud music, getting high, and having a future.
Biddle is actually correct about crime. If you truly believe that black people are criminals and marijuana laws are your shortcut to jail black people who appear threatening, then yeah. Obviously legalizing marijuana will leave more people on the streets who he feels should be labeled as criminals.
I'd like to say /s, but I'm pretty sure when they say "crime goes up," they mean "I see more black people looking comfortable wandering around in public."
In Canada, where it's legal throughout the whole damn nation:
Usage among teens (under 18) has dropped since legalisation.
There are almost no crimes associated with cannabis use aside from impaired driving.
(It used to be a cash crop for certain motorcycle enthusiast clubs)
The government has made billions in tax revenue.
It employs thousands.
Most of the bullshit talking points out there come from the assholes making money from incarcerations, and GOP psychos have been all up in that forever. I can't find the quote, but I remember the Senate hearing on Marijuana legalization where one of those southern state senators just straight up said something "Think about all the prisons we'll have to close."
It's not that they're too stupid. It's that they are too biased. They don't want to know the truth. Most of us acquire information and then come to a conclusion about reality. Conservatives, at least the worst of them, come to a conclusion about what they think reality is or should be and then go looking for information to support that conclusion. As long as the data supports their conclusion, it doesn't matter if the information is wrong once they have it.
Edit to remove extra word
This is 💯.
I remember after the 2016 election I was on Reddit saying how every cabinet pick Trump made they'd just research a different argument for why it wasn't the worst pick ever. When I wrote that they were like, "what else could we do?!". The idea of a politician picking easily understood and qualified people for cabinet positions didn't even cross their minds.
There is arguably one crime that is an issue with legal dispensaries. Since pot is still illegal federally, dispensaries don’t have access to normal banking, which makes them a cash-heavy business. Which means like other cash-heavy businesses, they’re a prime robbery target.
But there is great solution to this. Legalize it nationwide and let people pay with credit cards instead of debit or cash. Let them operate like a normal retail business.
Yeah, the crime thing is bullshit. All of their objections are bullshit. Canada is having absolutely zero problems from legalizing weed. It's been a huge positive here.
TO BE FAIR... It fucking sucks when I live in a residential neighborhood and put my kids down for bed at 8pm, and at midnight some asshat drives by with really loud pipes or like 12" doubles in the trunk.
If that dude was home getting baked you wouldn't have this problem!