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What happens when everyone decides they need a gun? (www.vox.com)

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“That feeling when institutions break down, I think, played a role in contributing to the major surge of gun sales and the rise in violence. When you feel like no one is in charge, that’s a recipe for violence to emerge.”

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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The way that Americans act like life is cheap and there's an acceptable amount of death is weird to me. Here's some data to counter your point.

The United States has a significantly higher rate of gun-related deaths compared to the UK and Australia. Here's a breakdown:

USA: Approximately 40,000 gun deaths annually (all causes)

UK: Approximately 50 gun deaths annually (all causes)

Australia: Approximately 250 gun deaths annually (all causes) Important Notes:

These numbers represent deaths from all causes related to guns, including homicides, suicides, and accidents.

The US has a population roughly five times that of the UK, and nearly fourteen times that of Australia.

Australia enacted stricter gun control laws in 1996 following a mass shooting, which is believed to have contributed to a significant decrease in gun deaths.

Here's the table showing gun related deaths per capita (rate per 100,000 people) in the US, UK and Australia

Country Gun deaths per capita (per 100,000 people)

USA 11.94%

UK 0.07%

Australia 0.95%

United States has a significantly higher rate of gun-related deaths compared to the UK and Australia. As you can see, the US has a gun death rate of 11.94 per 100,000 people, whereas the UK and Australia have much lower rates of 0.07% and 0.95% per 100,000 people, respectively.

Country	Gun deaths per capita (per 100,000 people)
USA	11.94%
UK	0.07%
Australia	0.95%

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Ya, those are crisis actors. They died to create a false statistics. The only thing I care about and matters is me. I'm safe, so fuck em'.

I am a responsible gun owner… till I ain't. But then the responsible gun owners are going to dig deep into my history to cherry pick how it was obvious 10 years ago so they can keep flaunting their guns without a care in the sun. Rinse and repeat.

/yeehaw

[+] RaoulDook@lemmy.world -11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

None of what you said is related to what I said. I never acted like life is cheap or that there is an acceptable amount of deaths. I simply produced some facts for perspective.

The fact is that life is very safe in the USA, regardless of what you or anyone thinks about it, and gun violence is very rare overall. 99.99999% of Americans are never affected by gun violence, so you'll have to excuse me for not being worried about it.

[–] dylanmorgan 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Declining average life expectancy and gun deaths becoming the leading cause of death for teens and children suggest that your statement about life being safe is very inaccurate. Let’s not even get into the rates of death due to cars, another part of daily American life that is intrinsically unsafe.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I simply produced some facts for perspective.

No, you threw some misinformation to justify the point you do not have

99.99999% of Americans are never affected by gun violence

Literally the #1 cause of death for youth in Murica, but sure NoBOdy iS affEctEd

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never acted like life is cheap or that there is an acceptable amount of deaths.

99.99999% of Americans are never affected by gun violence, so you'll have to excuse me for not being worried about it.

[–] Tiresia 2 points 2 months ago

99.99999% of Americans are never affected by gun violence

34 Americans are affected by gun violence?

Dude, you blow through that budget with one particularly quiet afternoon in Detroit.

If things are stable at the current rate, 2.4% of Americans get killed or hospitalized by gunshots in their lifetime. Those affected includes everyone related to those people as well as everyone who is injured but not hospitalized and everyone who is merely physically coerced or intimidated by guns. And honestly it should even include those who are treated roughly by cops because those cops have to be emotionally and functionally ready to handle gun violence at all times, those who must severely change their lives to avoid the risk of gun violence, and those who live in justified fear without being directly personally affected.

A more realistic estimate would be that 75% of Americans are not deeply traumatized by gun violence, 30% of Americans don't suffer actively because of gun violence, and 1% of Americans don't spend their lives afraid of gun violence (including the toxic conservative bravado as pretty transparent "making yourself look intimidating to scare off the threat" behavior).