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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 80 points 3 months ago (7 children)

She has had good turnout in events but don't let that fucking fool you. Florida is mostly republican but not like 90% - you can find plenty of die hard liberals in the state.

I'm not saying it's impossible but don't hold your fucking breath.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (3 children)

We voted for Obama, twice. Florida is more purple than most believe.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I feel like this has changed a lot in the last 12 years. Florida was a battleground state but many conservatives flocked there after the state and Scott and DeSantis leaned into the whole “freedom” thing.

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

Boomer retirements started hitting hard in 2011. Florida is approaching 1/3 of the state being older than 60. They're the most rapidly aging state in the country right now. Nearly every other state is losing old people to Florida on a daily basis.

When Obama was running, Florida was less than 1/4 of the state being 60 or older. Somewhere just under 4M residents of around 19M total. Now Florida has 22M people and of that 7M are 60 or older. The biggest growth changes are in the 0-19 age group that can't/won't vote. And the 60+ age group which is guaranteed to vote and skews conservative.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Live in Florida, family in Illinois. Conservative family members in Illinois love to point out I at least have more freedom than they do in Illinois.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except they have recreational weed.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Yes, but these are also lifetime NRA members and you can't use illegal drugs and get your FOID card. Have a few people who still have dealers and won't go to dispensaries because of this.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

You are repeating what people said in 2008.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

The main beef with Florida is that the Democrats are just not well organized. As a campaign you can take a risk to invest in a purplish state if there’s a good team on the ground to help you (looking at Georgia for instance). If the organisation is not there, it’s just too risky.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Well, it's kind of hard to believe because of the absolutely insane people you keep voting into office somehow.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As a diehard leftie who is unfortunately stuck in Florida for this election season, I will absolutely be voting for Kamala.

Kamala Kamala, Kamala, Kamala Kamala!

[–] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can do more. You can get organized and help people get organized. As someone in a state that is perma-blue, I envy you and how much political impact you could make.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

no, actually, i can't, but thanks for trying to guilt trip me while acting like you know my life from a random internet comment.

since i'm not privileged enough to work or live in a "forever blue" state, i spend my days overworked and underpaid in a shitty job, and all my free time is eaten up taking shitty public transit for hours to and from that shitty job to a hovel of a room i can barely afford, where i have to then spend all my free time either looking for a better job or searching for affordable food options, which i can barely afford-- and even then i'm on the verge of both starvation and homelessness. after that, i'm lucky to get a few hours of sleep before i have to wake up and do it all over again.

so why don't YOU do more than telling others less fortunate than you what to do, and mind your own damn business, ok?

how much do you envy me now?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Hey mate just gonna say I hope ya have some good luck and can get out of that shithole of a state. Florida is the worst type of state to be in since its economy is basically dead outside of tourism, hell even Idaho is doing better. So I hope ya have a good break and can make a good life for yourself.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

If you volunteer to phone bank for them I'm sure the campaign would be happy to have you call voters in Florida and other swing states.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 months ago

Worst case, Harris doing well forces Trump to spend more money there. I'm pretty sure his ego would take a big hit losing Florida, so I hope that effects it too and he overspends.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Mmmmm, lets see if this hurricane season changes that.

I can tell you Ian opened some eyes in my area. They're very interested in the gulf water temp charts I've sent them now.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, I feel like people had this idea of rising sea levels looking like a bathtub filling.

No. This is the ocean. It's going to look like Ian and Katrina, and sometimes it won't give back.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

50% of those republic voters found out that SCOTUS intends for them to make babies, fetch sandwiches, and shut up about their opinions.

The percentage of women who are cool with that is vanishingly small.

I wouldn’t be so sure.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think you'll depressingly find the number of women who are okay with it is surprisingly large - the GOP is basically embracing tradwife bullshit at this point and it seems to still get the majority of conservative women.

[–] Fern@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I agree. There are also more and more younger voters. Not saying they are all going to vote blue, but far more of them are.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The trad wife movement is divisive though. While I agree abortion isn't a ticket winner on it's own. It's definitely moved a needle.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But what's the voter turnout like? My brother lives in Florida and he proudly doesn't vote.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Allegedly 77% in 2020 according to the FL government. I assume that's among registered voters though, not all eligible.

https://dos.fl.gov/elections/data-statistics/elections-data/voter-turnout/

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I hope she doesn't pull a Hillary and dump a bunch money into Florida and Texas instead of campaigning in actual swing states.