soronixa

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A thread "Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression" on Mastodon in c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago (3 children)

lemmy.ml is also for anarchists, right?

A thread "Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression" on Mastodon in c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

if we were talking about lemmygrad, I would agree, but personally lemmy.ml is a place for me that I enjoy browsing and posting to. anyway I think it's the best opportunity for anyone interested in making a centrist or apolitical instance and get the label of "flagship instance" on joinlemmy to help it grow and become as big as lemmy.ml, it will also make it easier for people who don't like the politics of lemmy.ml to choose an instance knowing that it has no strong political affiliation.

but I agree the folks on lemmygrad can be a little bit ... let's say annoying.

also interesting that their only problem seems to be about the "genocide".

Incredibly racist comments on this r/linux thread on Chinese Academy of Sciences creating a RISC-V processor that runs Linux. in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

people seem to forget that it's the US backdooring every AMD and intel CPU, and that this one is open source. but most people are calling them out, so yeah.

It's too early for this in c/memes@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

so only the two ends of the spectrum, communists and fascists aren't, libs?

and if being a lib is undesirable, doesn't it mean "individual rights and freedoms" a bad thing in your view?

It's too early for this in c/memes@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (4 children)

honestly at this point I can no longer tell who's a lib. at first I thought libs were american democrats, then I saw people calling centrists libs too, and recently I've seen people calling anarchists libs too. so I don't really know, but that's why I specified that I meant American liberal.

It's too early for this in c/memes@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (6 children)

poor soferman isn't even a lib (at least in the American sense), they're a social democrat I think.

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[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.ml/post/68017/comment/57875

oh you mean nutomic banning soferman from c/worldnews? I thought nutomic banned a user for saying there's a genocide, sorry. nutomic banned them for this comment:

Apparently I not. And apparently you can't make value judgments on other people's opinions either.

it wasn't because of Uyghurs or stuff like that.

Well, it's okay if they are like this, they just should be open about it and not do arbitrary bans for haphazard reasons while at the same time pretending to be morally superior, allowing other viewpoints and following a code of conduct. Or, if they do, they should just admit it. Which would actually be fine with me. Saying "I don't like you being in that community, so I banned you" is better than to pretend there's a universal truth that the banned person is a baddie.

I don't have any problem with their idealogies either. actually I like them because it means they're against capitalism. I was just pointing out that the nature of Lemmy and lemmy.ml isn't really separated from the idealogy of its creators. and as I said, it has pros and cons.

that being said, I agree that banning soferman was not justified, at least not after they had changed their behavior.

*Permanently Deleted* in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

nutomic banned a guy who said there's a genocide and someone else posted said video.

seriously? can you link the thread?

other than that, idk to what extent I agree. on one hand I like certain aspects of Lemmy's culture, linux, foss, programming, anti-capitalism, anti-corporate, privacy awareness, decentalisation, veganism, libre culture, progressive social values etc, on the other hand I don't really like some stuff, like leftists defending putin (why? T_T ) ,being so anti-imperialism that they would call any mainstream source propaganda, turning a blind eye when it comes to China's flaws as if it can't possibly be wrong in any case, stuff like that.

we should consider that the way Lemmy has been developed and lemmy.ml has been maintained has been deeply ideaological. three admins are marxist-leninists, one is an anarchist and I don't know about the other one. dessalines and nutomic (who are the two main developers as far as I know) are both deeply invested in their idealogy. personally, it doesn't bother me. but certainly many people might not like it, I assume that's why soferman spammed a lot of agenda posts, because the average person might feel unwelcomed and uncomfortable here. don't get me wrong, the fact that Lemmy has been an idealogical effort is the only reason that has stopped it form becoming another reddit alternative for Nazis, so it has its own advantages and disadvantages.

one solution would be to ask admins to limit their activities to PSAs and banning spammers/scammers and sublemmies that break the code of conduct, and leaving all other forms of moderation to community moderators, which means that admins shouldn't moderate communities, at least not with their main account. it would also require them to make anonymous accounts to participate in discussions as users instead of using the same admin account.

but do I want to see that happening? idk. maybe not for now. it really depends on what the admins and us want Lemmy and lemmy.ml to become.

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What do you think about recent events on c/worldnews? Should we try to prevent such behaviors? (lemmy.ml)
 

so if you haven't come across it, see here , here , here and here .

in short, one side says sources are pro-imperialist, the other side believes they're legitimate sources. then there is one user thinking we have been targeted by troll farms, one accusing others of being conspiracy theorists and stuff like that. it's one of the most unproductive arguements I've seen on Lemmy, something that looks like one those downvoted-to-oblivian threads on reddit. it's just a mess.

I think we can do a few things to prevent such pointless fights in the future:

  1. my favoriate response would be creating a community of fact-checker Lemmurs. it'll function similar to a wikipedia talk page, anyone can request a trial for an article shared on c/worldnews , then they will present evidence and sources to challenge the article, while the other side attempts to do the same. personal attacks, accusing of being a troll, asking for a call on jitsi to debate face to face (like seriously?!?!) will be forbidden. both sides will debate untill they reach an agreement. trying to go off-topic, bad faith arguements etc will be forbidden as well.

each time we reach a conclusion, a positive or negative point will be assigned to news source and to the person who posted it. best contributers who show the least bias will get a point as well. overtime it will help us to see if a source is really good or not.

  1. a much easier approch would be to let downvotes and upvotes decide the fate of each post. I understand that this is the whole point of lemmy and similar platforms, but right now we have the problem of each side using downvotes and upvotes like it's a battle. posts about internet censoreship and tiny pigs are being downvoted because the person who posts them trusts the Guardian and other news outlets.

  2. we can limit the number of posts on c/worldnews to minimize the amount of personal attacks and arguements.

so what do you think? I personally think as more users come to lemmy, we'll be dealling with more diverse opinions, and people might just engage in behaviors that harms the platform and benefits no one. this will be a real problem considering that Lemmy leans far-left. in my opinion having a fact-checking community will be neccessary if we don't want fact-based communities turn into battlefields.

ps: am I going too far and overreacting? to be honest I don't know xD I just think there's no chance for productive political arguements if we can't agree on the facts, and i see no point in what's happening on c/worldnews right now.

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What are some features you want to see in Lemmy and some features you don't want to see? (lemmy.ml)
 

What are some new or reddit features that you think will improve Lemmy, and what are the things that you don't want to lay your eyes upon ever?

What free VPNs would you reccomend? in c/privacy@lemmy.ml
[–] soronixa@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

While most free VPNs are scam, ProtonVPN is recommended by proivacytools.io and is available on F-Droid. But if you can, support them by paying for their services. Oh, and the free version doesn't work for torrenting, for obvious reasons.